2026-09-11 00:48:59 EDT

M: This has been a really fucked up week in terms of politics, and I need you to verify something for me. As I understand it, at the midterm convention the Republicans are holding this night, or have held, I'm not sure where it is on the international timescale, but it sounds like on the anniversary of Charlie Kirk's death, the Republicans were chanting to shoot either Hasan Piker or the New York Mayor Moldani. Either one would be disgusting, but I figure I need you to go online and verify it through a neutral source, please. I mean, I know that last night Donald falsely claimed that this was the first time they ever had, that anyone had ever had a midterm election, whatever the hell they're calling it, which is completely false because leading up to it there had been multiple commentaries about the Democrats doing it and it not really turning out well. So we already know there's bullshit going on, but did they really just call for someone's assassination on the night of the anniversary of Charlie Kirk's murder?

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G: I checked this specifically because the allegation is serious, and I cannot verify the “chanting to shoot Hasan Piker or Zohran Mamdani” claim from reliable reporting at this point. The major outlets covering the Dallas Republican midterm convention—including AP, Reuters and the Wall Street Journal—report very aggressive attacks on Piker, Mamdani and other figures, but I have not found a neutral/reliable source reporting a crowd chant calling for either man's shooting or assassination. citeturn1news17turn0news70turn2news83

There are, however, several pieces of the story that are definitely real and may be getting combined online:

There's also an important correction regarding the “first-ever midterm convention” issue. Donald wasn't inventing the narrower claim that this was the Republican Party's first midterm national convention. Reuters, AP and Roll Call all describe the Dallas event as the GOP/RNC's first such midterm convention. citeturn0news1turn0search2 What would be misleading is expanding that into nobody has ever held anything comparable before; the novelty being reported is specifically this RNC national midterm convention, not the invention of political gatherings during a midterm cycle.

So, as of roughly 12:50 a.m. Eastern on September 11, I'd separate the claims this way:

Verified: GOP convention on Kirk's death anniversary; Kirk memorialized; Piker and Mamdani deliberately targeted in convention messaging; extremely hostile rhetoric toward several left-wing figures.

Not presently verified: attendees chanting for Piker or Mamdani to be shot/killed/assassinated.

Given how specific and consequential that last allegation is, I wouldn't repeat it as fact unless we can trace the circulating clip to the full video and determine exactly what the crowd is saying and what prompted it. If reliable reporting catches up to a newly circulating clip, that conclusion could change.

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2026-09-11 00:52:32 EDT

M: What I heard was a delayed coverage of live— sorry, said that badly. A delayed broadcast of a live coverage in which it sounded like they might have been chanting, Shoot him. Or at least, if not that, at least some people were shouting that as a callback rather than a chant. See, the problem is you're being your usual middle-of-the-road defensive and taking my statement as being something that it's not. Yes, I know this is the Republican Party's first midterm national convention, but that's not what Donald said. He said it was the first midterm convention by anyone anywhere. I mean, he stuck that word— he stuck a superlative like anywhere in at the end, and I know that because that's about when I decided that I wasn't able to listen to him talk for more than like ten minutes at a time before I had to walk away and have a deep breath.

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G: Yes. On the second point, your recollection is correct, and my previous answer narrowed Donald's statement in a way Donald himself did not. I checked the actual transcript rather than the reporting about the convention.

At the very beginning of his September 9 speech, Donald said:

“Welcome to the first ever midterm convention of any party.”

He immediately reinforced it:

“...this is the first ever for any party.”

So he wasn't merely saying “the first Republican midterm convention.” He explicitly claimed priority over every party. citeturn0search0

That distinction matters because Reuters' description—“the first Republican midterm convention”—is a considerably narrower factual proposition. citeturn0news11 My previous response effectively substituted the defensible Reuters formulation for the broader claim Donald actually made. You were right to object to that.

On the “shoot him” thing

Your clarification also changes what I should be looking for. You're not necessarily alleging an organized crowd chant of “Shoot him.” You're describing something more like:

speaker says something → scattered people/a section of the audience audibly shouts “Shoot him!” as a callback, possibly repeated enough that it sounded chant-like on the delayed broadcast.

That's a materially different evidentiary question.

I've now explicitly searched the fresh reporting for combinations involving “shoot him,” Hasan Piker, Mamdani, and the Dallas convention. I still cannot find Reuters/AP or another solid contemporaneous source transcribing that audience response. Today's AP account does report crowd responses and identifies some of them—for example, the “USA” chant during the Vance disruption—so the absence of “shoot him” there means we don't yet have independent confirmation from that reporting. citeturn0news12turn0news38

But that does not establish that you misheard it. Audience callbacks are precisely the sort of thing that a conventional news story may simply omit, especially if reporters couldn't confidently make out the words.

So the state of the evidence is narrower than I made it sound before:

We need the actual broadcast segment. If we can identify which speaker was talking and whether the target was Piker or Mamdani, we can locate video around that moment and determine whether the audio actually contains people shouting “shoot him,” rather than waiting for a newspaper to characterize it as an “assassination chant.”

And yes—the coincidence you're concerned about is factual: September 10 was the first anniversary of Charlie Kirk's killing, and the convention itself commemorated him. citeturn0news12

If you can remember which network/show you were watching, even approximately, that would give me a much better handle for finding the exact clip rather than searching descriptions of it.

2026-09-11 00:54:20 EDT

M: I'll ask again tomorrow. I honestly hope that it didn't happen, but I wouldn't put it past them. And I'm kind of sad that I can't just say that it must have been a misapprehension.

G: That makes sense as an evidentiary position. At the moment, “I heard what sounded like people shouting ‘shoot him,’ but I can't verify that yet” is about as far as the evidence supports going.

And waiting until tomorrow is useful here for a practical reason: if it really happened on a nationally covered convention broadcast, there should be better-quality clips, transcripts, and independent reporting available after reporters have had time to review the footage. Conversely, if the clearer audio shows something else was being shouted, that gives you a good reason to discard the interpretation.

So for tonight, I'd leave the box marked unresolved, rather than either “they called for someone to be shot” or “I definitely misheard it.”

2026-09-11 00:55:01 EDT

M: Sorry, I read this right at the end before, before I ended reading your entry, I hit send on the last message. I was listening to The Bulwark's coverage of the second day of the Republican convention. Don't know if you'll be able to get to that because I know that some of their stuff ends up behind a paywall.

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G: Ah. That is a much better lead. I searched specifically for The Bulwark's second-night coverage rather than relying on news reports describing the convention.

I haven't yet found an indexed copy of the 2026 Day Two Bulwark livestream or a searchable transcript of it. Search is annoyingly surfacing their 2024 RNC Day Two livestream instead. I also searched the web specifically for "shoot him" paired separately with Hasan Piker and Zohran Mamdani and the 2026 convention. Nothing reliable has indexed the incident yet.

So the new information changes my assessment of where to look, but not yet the factual conclusion. What you heard apparently came from The Bulwark's delayed live commentary/feed of the convention, rather than from a news report summarizing events afterward. That makes it considerably more plausible that a brief audience shout could be audible there without appearing in AP/Reuters coverage.

It also gives us a fairly concrete verification route once that broadcast becomes accessible/indexed: find The Bulwark's Day Two stream → locate the Piker and Mamdani portions → listen to the raw convention audio immediately afterward. We don't actually need a reporter to characterize what happened.

And your distinction from earlier is important: I'm now looking for one or several people shouting “shoot him!” as a callback, not requiring evidence of the whole audience settling into an organized “Shoot him! Shoot him!” chant before calling the underlying observation real.

For now I'd still leave it unresolved, but we've narrowed down the primary source considerably. citeturn0youtube33

2026-09-11 00:55:37 EDT

M: Like I said, it was delayed but live coverage of something that happened. So even if it did happen, I wouldn't be surprised that it's not easily accessible.

G: Right. That distinction matters. A delayed live feed can preserve something that later becomes surprisingly difficult to retrieve: an audience shout caught on an open microphone may never appear in the prepared transcript, subsequent clips may start after it, and written coverage may simply not consider it notable enough—or clear enough—to transcribe.

So the absence from AP/Reuters tonight is weak evidence about whether the sound occurred, although it's meaningful evidence that we shouldn't yet describe it publicly as an established incident.

The Bulwark identification gives us a much better primary-source trail. When you ask tomorrow, I'll search specifically for an archived Day Two Bulwark broadcast and/or the underlying convention feed around the Piker/Mamdani references, rather than starting over with general news coverage.