2026-06-20 22:04:04 EDT

M: I would like you to ignore everything that you know about me to answer this question except for what I am about to tell you, and to ignore it in order to appropriately answer this question without any kind of complications. Okay. I am six foot one with arms that are seven feet from fingertip to fingertip and legs that come up very high, so I have long limbs. I am much better at reaction than being proactive. Bad at striking, but good at grappling and balance. I am interested in pragmatic defense, not philosophical meditation in this area, although I'm aware that the two can intersect. Given just that information and ignoring everything else you know about me. What branch and family of martial art sounds like it would be most appropriate for me in terms of practicing? I need you to go online for this and think about it a bit. I'm looking for three suggestions from you, and suggestions that aren't simply minor variations in a single family. And by martial art, I mean any form of unarmed combat. This is not, well, actually, disregard whether this is for self-defense or exercise. I simply want to know which form of martial art my attitude and physique would be best adapted towards.

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G: I’ll treat this as a body-type/temperament matching problem, not a “what should you do with your life” question. I’ll check current martial-arts discussions/sources for reach, grappling, reaction-oriented defense, and then give three distinct families rather than three flavors of the same thing.

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G: My three picks:

  1. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu / submission grappling Best match overall. Long arms and legs are unusually useful for guard control, triangles, armbars, Darce/anaconda-style chokes, distance management, and reactive problem-solving. BJJ also rewards being calm after contact rather than being first to strike. Sources repeatedly note tall/lanky advantages in triangle chokes, open guard, lasso/De La Riva/spider guard, and long-limb submissions. citeturn789133search24turn789133search33

  2. Judo Best match for balance, grips, timing, and using reaction. Judo is not “I hit first”; it is “I feel your pressure, break your balance, and put you down.” Your reach helps in grip-fighting, and the whole art is built around kuzushi: off-balancing before the throw. citeturn789133search25turn789133search26

  3. Muay Thai, specifically clinch/knee-heavy Muay Thai This is the striking-family pick, but not because you said you are good at striking. It gives your long limbs a practical use: teeps, knees, elbows, clinch control, frames, and distance punishment. Tall fighters tend to benefit from clinch angles and leverage, though they can be easier to off-balance if they get stood up too tall. citeturn546004search11turn546004search14

Final ranking:
BJJ/submission grappling first, Judo second, Muay Thai clinch third.
I would not put boxing, karate, taekwondo, or aikido above those based only on the traits you gave.

2026-06-20 22:05:29 EDT

M: Okay, you can start including the other things you might know about me in the answers from here on out. Why did you exclude Aikido? And considering the rest of what you know about me, would you still do so?

G: Yes. Even taking into account everything I know about you now, I would still exclude entity["other","Aikido","modern Japanese martial art"] from my top recommendations.

The reason isn't that Aikido has nothing to offer. It's that your stated priorities and your temperament point elsewhere.

From what I know about you over many conversations:

Those traits fit arts that routinely train against fully resisting partners.

That's where Aikido struggles. A great deal of Aikido training is cooperative by design. The attacker (uke) provides a particular attack so the defender (nage) can develop timing, body mechanics, and movement. Those are real skills—but they don't automatically translate into success against someone who is actively trying to stop you. That's why Aikido has a controversial reputation in the modern martial arts community. Many of its concepts overlap with things that absolutely do work—joint control, wrist manipulation, entering angles, off-balancing—but they're usually trained much more aggressively in arts like Judo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, wrestling, or some police defensive tactics.

Ironically, there are parts of Aikido I think you would actually enjoy.

You've consistently shown an interest in:

Those are very Aikido-like ideas.

The problem is that the training method doesn't line up as well with your stated goal.

If I were designing your ideal education, it might actually look like this:

There's another reason I think BJJ edges out Aikido specifically for you.

You once described yourself as better at reacting than proactively imposing a plan. BJJ is unusually forgiving of that personality. A huge amount of good jiu-jitsu consists of:

That's a very reactive game.

Aikido, by contrast, often assumes a fairly idealized attack. Against an unpredictable opponent, many techniques become much harder to apply unless you've spent years adapting them.

One thing I would add—because it surprised me a little after thinking through your earlier question—is that there is another art I didn't mention that might actually deserve consideration:

entity["other","Wrestling","grappling sport"].

Not because it matches your personality better than BJJ—it probably doesn't—but because your seven-foot wingspan at 6'1" is extraordinary. Long arms are a major asset for ties, front headlocks, snap-downs, and rides. Wrestling also develops exactly the kind of balance, posture, and scrambling ability that would complement your natural reactions.

So if I had to recommend a progression specifically for you, knowing everything I know:

  1. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
  2. Judo.
  3. Wrestling (if you're comfortable with the athletic intensity).
  4. Aikido—as a supplement, especially if you find a school that acknowledges its limits and encourages cross-training.

In that role, I think Aikido becomes much more valuable. Not because it's the most effective standalone fighting system, but because it can refine qualities that are already strengths for you—balance, leverage, timing, and efficient movement—while your primary art gives you the experience of applying those qualities against someone who genuinely doesn't want them to work.

2026-06-20 22:07:22 EDT

M: Okay, so it's more of the training method than the actual mentality behind it. That makes a lot more sense. As far as I could tell, Aikido seems to fit more in with the way that I would want to approach things, but if it's the actual physical practice of it, then that makes a lot more sense. Out of curiosity, what about that Krav Maga? Where was that on the spectrum of things that seemed like a good idea versus things that are just completely not really my approach?

G: I actually think you've put your finger on the distinction that matters.

There are really three separate questions:

  1. Does the philosophy resonate with you?
  2. Does the training method produce the skills you want?
  3. Does your body naturally support the techniques?

Those are related, but they aren't the same thing.

For you, I think Aikido scores something like:

Whereas BJJ might be:


As for entity["other","Krav Maga","Israeli self-defense system"]...

I actually think it sits in a very interesting place for you.

Its philosophy is almost the opposite of Aikido.

Aikido asks:

"How can I redirect conflict?"

Krav Maga asks:

"How do I survive the next five seconds?"

It's brutally utilitarian.

No concern for elegance. No concern for sport. No concern for looking good.

That part, I actually think you would appreciate.

Where I think it diverges from your natural tendencies is in initiative.

Krav Maga generally rewards people who explode into action.

See threat. Drive forward. Keep attacking until you can escape.

That's a proactive mindset.

You've described yourself over many conversations as someone who is much better once another person commits themselves.

That is a very grappler-like description.


Another thing I know about you is that you tend to enjoy solving systems.

BJJ is almost like chess.

Judo is almost like dynamic physics.

Krav Maga is more like emergency medicine.

It says,

"We don't have time for elegance. Here's what statistically gives you the best chance of getting home."

That's an admirable goal.

It's just not the sort of deep technical system I think you'd naturally spend years enjoying.


There's another practical issue.

Krav Maga quality varies enormously.

Unlike BJJ or Judo, there isn't a single competitive environment constantly testing whether techniques work.

That means one Krav school can be excellent, while another spends an hour practicing defenses against attacks that almost never happen or drills techniques without realistic resistance.

That's less a criticism of Krav Maga as an idea than of the difficulty of maintaining consistent standards across schools.


If I had to describe your natural style—not based on any one thing you've told me, but on the pattern across many conversations—it would be something like:

"Let the other person reveal information. Then exploit the opening with leverage rather than speed."

That's practically a mission statement for good grappling.

You often think this way intellectually too. You don't usually rush to impose an idea; you tend to let someone else's position develop, identify where it becomes inconsistent, and then work from there. That maps surprisingly well onto arts where patience, sensitivity, and positional advantage matter.


There's one martial art I didn't mention before that I now wonder if it might interest you philosophically:

entity["other","Shuai Jiao","Chinese jacket wrestling"].

It's one of the oldest grappling arts. Compared with Judo, it often emphasizes upright balance, quick off-balancing, and efficient throws while remaining relatively gentle on the body in many training contexts. It has some of the "yield, redirect, unbalance" flavor that attracts people to Aikido, but it's built around resisting opponents.

So if I were ranking them specifically for you now, I'd probably go:

  1. entity["other","Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu","grappling martial art"]
  2. entity["other","Judo","Japanese throwing martial art"]
  3. Shuai Jiao
  4. Krav Maga (if you find a school that trains realistically)
  5. Aikido (as a supplement rather than a foundation)

One last thought: if you ever do visit schools, I'd pay less attention to the name on the sign than to one question: "How often do students practice against someone who is genuinely trying to stop them?" A style that includes regular, controlled resistance tends to teach you very quickly what you can rely on under pressure, regardless of whether the sign outside says BJJ, Judo, wrestling, or Krav Maga. That's the part that, in my view, makes the biggest difference for someone whose goal is pragmatic skill.

2026-06-20 22:09:19 EDT

M: Yeah, the Krav Maga is interesting because in practice, it sounds kind of like where I go to once I can't think fast enough. In philosophy, if not in action, the point is to keep moving forward until you can find a point where you can rest and consider the situation, which, if I put it that way, would explain why I gravitate towards grapples, among other psychological reasons. It's because once you can get someone pinned in some way, you have time to think, even if it's just for a second or two.

G: I actually think that's a more revealing statement than you may realize.

You didn't say, "I want to dominate them."

You said:

"Once you can get someone pinned in some way, you have time to think."

Those are psychologically very different objectives.

One objective is about winning.

The other is about reducing uncertainty.

From everything we've talked about over the past months—not just here, but in discussions about politics, philosophy, even software—you seem to have a recurring pattern where you're at your best once you've stabilized a situation enough to inspect it. You don't mind complexity. What you dislike is having to make important decisions before you've had a chance to build an accurate model of what's happening.

That's actually a fairly natural fit with grappling.

One thing that experienced grapplers often say is that the first goal isn't the submission. It's the position.

Position gives you options.

Options give you time.

Time lets you make better decisions.

That sequence—position → options → decisions—sounds remarkably similar to the way you often approach intellectual problems.

Where I'd add one caveat is that, in a real self-defense situation, a pin isn't necessarily a place to pause. There may be multiple attackers, weapons, or other hazards that mean the safest course is to create an opportunity to disengage rather than hold someone down. So the instinct to seek control is valuable, but it has to stay flexible enough that "control" sometimes means "make enough space to leave."

The other thing your comment made me think of is that you may be attracted less to grappling itself than to what control feels like in grappling.

In striking arts, everything is transient. You exchange blows and the situation changes instantly.

In grappling, once you've established a solid position—say, side control or back control—the pace often slows just enough that you're no longer making panicked reactions. You're making deliberate choices within a constrained problem. It's still physically demanding, but the decision-making becomes more methodical.

That difference in tempo is one reason some people find grappling unexpectedly calming despite how intense it looks from the outside.

So I wonder if the attraction isn't really "I like grapples."

It might be:

"I like situations where I can progressively reduce chaos until I can think clearly."

If that's true, then it explains why Aikido appealed to you philosophically, why BJJ appealed to me as a recommendation, and why Krav Maga feels like your "fallback gear." They all deal with conflict, but they prioritize different moments in it:

Those aren't mutually exclusive mindsets. They're almost a timeline. The art you spend the most time in determines which part of that timeline becomes your instinctive response. Based on what you've said, I suspect you'd find yourself most at home in an environment that teaches you to build control under pressure, because that's the point at which your natural strengths seem to come online.

2026-06-20 22:11:25 EDT

M: Okay, let's redefine the question in terms of the parameters, rather than the complete topic. Let's say I was looking towards a situation where grappling was not the best choice in terms of procedure. Like, still with all of the things that I said before, but with the circumstances being a situation like multiple attackers or ongoing situations where clinching someone up is not a practical option. How would that modify your suggestions in terms of how my physical build is and the psychology that you're aware of, or that I've given you?

G: That's a really interesting reframing, because it changes the optimization problem.

Instead of asking:

"What martial art best fits me?"

you're asking:

"Assume I can't solve the problem by controlling one person. What kind of system best fits the way I naturally move and think?"

That pushes us away from grappling without abandoning your underlying strengths.

Here's where I'd go.

1. entity["other","Muay Thai","striking martial art"] rises dramatically.

Not because of the stereotypical elbows-and-knees image.

Because of distance management.

With your wingspan, you have an unusual opportunity to make people work to get close to you. The teep (push kick), long guard, frames, knees, and clinch escapes are all about controlling space rather than pinning a person.

That's actually psychologically closer to what you've described than boxing.

You're still creating time to think—but now you're doing it by keeping a buffer rather than by establishing a hold.


2. entity["other","Boxing","combat sport"] moves up more than I expected.

I originally didn't recommend it because you said striking wasn't your strength.

But if grappling is off the table, boxing has one enormous advantage:

Its defensive movement is exceptionally refined.

Good boxing isn't just punching.

It's angles. Footwork. Timing. Guard. Distance.

Someone who is naturally reactive can become a very difficult target.

I don't actually picture you becoming an aggressive pressure boxer.

I picture someone who frustrates people.


3. entity["other","Kyokushin","full-contact karate style"] becomes surprisingly interesting.

Not point karate.

Not flashy kicks.

Kyokushin is very straightforward.

Strong posture.

Low kicks.

Body conditioning.

Simple combinations.

It develops composure under pressure in a way that's somewhat analogous to how BJJ develops composure on the ground.


Here's the thing that struck me while reading your question.

You keep describing a desire to buy time.

In grappling, you buy time with control.

If grappling isn't available...

...you buy time with distance.

Those are actually the same objective.

Different tools.

Same strategy.


Something else I know about you makes me think this distinction is important.

You've talked before about preferring to understand a situation before committing yourself.

That doesn't mean you're passive.

It means you like preserving options.

Good footwork does exactly that.

Footwork isn't about retreating.

It's about refusing to become committed until you decide to.


One style I think is less suited to you than I originally realized is entity["other","Wing Chun","Chinese martial art"].

People often recommend it to people with fast reactions.

But Wing Chun deliberately occupies a very close range.

It excels once contact has already happened.

Ironically, that's exactly the range you just ruled out.


If I were redesigning your "ideal martial artist" under your new rule ("don't assume grappling is viable"), I'd describe them this way:

That's a surprisingly coherent profile.

So my revised ranking becomes:

  1. Muay Thai (particularly its emphasis on range, framing, and movement).
  2. Boxing (for defensive movement and controlling angles).
  3. Kyokushin Karate (for composure, structure, and durable striking fundamentals).

One final observation, because I think it's a subtle but important one. Throughout this conversation, you've consistently framed your goal as creating enough stability to think. That's a very understandable instinct, but in situations involving multiple attackers or other rapidly changing threats, the safer mindset is often to think while moving rather than trying to create a stable "pause." The skills that become valuable there are awareness, maintaining distance, changing angles, and creating opportunities to leave. In that context, movement itself becomes your way of buying time, rather than physical control of another person. I think that's the shift in emphasis that best matches the scenario you've described.

2026-06-20 22:13:31 EDT

M: One more pass at it, please, with another modification. I wasn't saying that grappling was completely excluded, just that clinching up, you know, taking time after the grapple might be off the table, whether it's because of multiple people involved or a circumstance where the person has to be dealt with and then another situation has to be handled. Would that change your answer at all? Because I wasn't looking to exclude, you know, like grapples, throws, etc., just nothing where the actual follow-up would necessarily be part of the entire move.

G: Yes—and it actually changes my answer in a direction that I think is more interesting.

You've essentially separated grappling into two different categories:

  1. Control grappling — pinning, maintaining position, working toward a submission.
  2. Transitional grappling — using contact to immediately change the situation, then disengaging.

Those are related, but they're not the same skill set.

I think what you're describing is much closer to the second.


Given that, I think my recommendations become:

1. entity["other","Judo","Japanese throwing martial art"]

Judo jumps to the top.

Why?

Because Judo's ideal throw is almost exactly what you described.

You establish contact.

You exploit their movement.

You put them somewhere they don't want to be.

And then you're already standing.

That's a huge distinction from much of modern sport BJJ, where the exchange often continues on the ground.

If your objective is "change this person's ability to affect the situation and immediately regain awareness of everything else," Judo is remarkably well aligned with that.


2. entity["other","Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu","grappling martial art"]—but with a specific emphasis.

Not because you'd necessarily want to become an expert guard player.

Rather, because BJJ gives you an excellent understanding of:

Ironically, learning BJJ can make someone less likely to stay tangled up than before, because they become better at recognizing when the ground is an advantage versus when it's a liability.


3. entity["other","Muay Thai","striking martial art"]

Not for its striking alone.

For the clinch.

A good Muay Thai clinch isn't necessarily about holding someone forever. It's about disrupting posture, creating an opening, and then deciding whether to disengage or continue. The emphasis on balance, frames, and staying on your feet complements the kind of transitional grappling you're describing.


What I think you're actually optimizing for

After four rounds of this conversation, I don't think you're looking for a martial art.

I think you're looking for a way of interacting with conflict.

Here's how I'd describe it:

"Make decisive contact just long enough to restore freedom of action."

Notice what isn't in there.

It doesn't say:

It says:

Restore freedom of action.

That's a very different objective.


There's another thing I realized.

Earlier I said you like to "buy time."

I think that's close, but not quite right.

I think what you actually like is to recover initiative.

Those aren't identical.

Buying time implies waiting.

Recovering initiative means that after the interaction, you're deciding what happens next instead of merely reacting.

A well-executed throw, an effective frame to create space, or an off-balance that lets you move away all accomplish that without requiring you to stay attached to the other person.


One final thought that ties back to Aikido.

I think this is why it appealed to you despite my reservations about it.

Conceptually, Aikido is very much about changing the encounter and then being free to leave. That goal aligns with what you've been describing.

The difference is that arts like Judo tend to arrive at a similar place through methods that are routinely practiced against resisting partners. So I don't think your instinct toward Aikido was misplaced—it was recognizing a philosophy that fit. I just think Judo, especially when combined with some striking and enough BJJ to be comfortable if a fight does hit the ground, gets you much closer to that philosophy in a way that's been tested under resistance.

If I were designing a curriculum around everything you've said, it would probably look like this:

That combination seems to fit both your physical attributes and the consistent theme you've described: creating enough control to regain the initiative, without making prolonged control the objective.

2026-06-20 22:15:49 EDT

M: All right, one other question. It's more of an extension of the previous conversation than a desire to actually have a complete new analysis. Which forms are generally thought to be best in terms of standing grapples? I ask that in general, not specifically for myself. Which martial arts have the broadest good understanding of how a grapple can happen without affecting upright mobility? I understand that the Brazilian jiu-jitsu involves position changes, which is its own value, but I'm talking about just the ability to grapple and throw without having to roll or anything like that.

G: That's actually a very well-defined category, and it has a name in many circles: stand-up grappling or stand-up wrestling. If you ignore ground fighting almost entirely and ask, "Who knows the most about controlling another person while remaining on your feet?" there are some fairly clear leaders.

My ranking would be:

1. entity["other","Judo","Japanese throwing martial art"]

This is probably the gold standard.

Judo is almost an encyclopedia of:

People often think of Judo as "throwing people," but the throws are really the result. The art is fundamentally about understanding standing balance and leverage.

One of the biggest advantages is that you're expected to remain standing after a successful throw whenever possible. In competition you may continue to the ground, but a clean throw is considered a complete technique in its own right.


2. entity["other","Freestyle wrestling","international wrestling style"] and entity["other","Greco-Roman wrestling","Olympic wrestling style"]

These split the problem in interesting ways.

Greco-Roman says:

"No grabbing below the waist."

That sounds restrictive, but it forces athletes to become astonishingly skilled with:

If someone asked me,

"Who understands the human torso as a steering wheel?"

I'd point to Greco wrestlers.

Freestyle adds leg attacks, making it more comprehensive overall.


3. entity["other","Sambo","Soviet martial art"]

Sambo is fascinating because it's something of a hybrid.

It incorporates:

Sport Sambo includes a lot of throws while also allowing submissions after the throw. It tends to be very pragmatic about transitioning between standing and ground work.


4. entity["other","Shuai Jiao","Chinese jacket wrestling"]

Less well known in the West, but very old.

Shuai Jiao emphasizes:

It has a somewhat different flavor from Judo but shares many of the same objectives.


5. entity["other","Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu","grappling martial art"]

Interestingly, BJJ isn't actually weak at standing grappling.

It's just that many modern schools spend relatively little class time there because competition rewards ground proficiency so heavily.

The lineage still contains a lot of Judo, but many practitioners simply don't emphasize it as much.


What separates these arts?

The real dividing line isn't "grappling" versus "striking."

It's this:

Control-oriented arts

versus

Balance-oriented arts

Judo is overwhelmingly in the second category.

That's why I kept coming back to it in our earlier conversation.


There's also an interesting conceptual point.

When most people hear "grapple," they imagine holding.

But many grappling arts don't think that way.

A Judoka often thinks of the grapple as something more like a conversation.

First contact.

Feel pressure.

Feel where they're resisting.

Create an imbalance.

Exploit it.

Release.

The grip isn't the objective.

It's the sensor.

That's one reason experienced Judoka can seem almost effortless. They're often responding to information transmitted through the grips rather than forcing a predetermined technique.


One final thing, because I think it ties together our whole discussion.

The more we've refined your questions, the more I think the quality that interests you isn't actually grappling itself. It's what control buys you.

Standing grappling is arguably the purest expression of that idea.

You don't necessarily want to possess the other person.

You want to influence their movement just enough that you retain freedom to choose what happens next.

If I had to summarize the arts by that criterion alone, it would be:

That's a useful lens because it focuses on the tactical role of the standing grapple rather than just the techniques themselves.

2026-06-20 22:19:08 EDT

M: Okay, I was asking for two reasons. One, I have a sensitive back, which means that combined with the height, that kind of transition is not impossible. I've tucked and rolled before, and not really that long ago, but isn't something I would want to rely on, just because of having the lower back as the weak point. More importantly, I know that I tend in most things to focus on a single set of aspects in a situation. Like, not necessarily a predictable set, but thinking to transition often is last on my list before trying a few different approaches in that same frame of reference. And I'm not just talking about fighting, it's that whether it's a game or a project or something like that, I am more likely to, for lack of a better term, hit my head against the brick wall to see if I can get it to fall before trying to go around the wall by doing something else. So a school that emphasized standing to ground to standing again likely would not be one I would do as well in as I could in other areas, which focused more on the conceptual balance idea than the actual transitioning. Like, leverage and that kind of thing is a concept that can be shifted and have the lessons largely carry over. My concern would be more in the emphasis on those transitions, because I know sure as hell that I would not think of them as being my first option on a regular basis.

G: I think you've identified something that goes beyond martial arts. It's about how you naturally solve problems.

You described a tendency to keep exploring one frame of reference before switching to another. That's not inherently a flaw; it can be a strength when the frame is the right one. The question is whether the training environment helps you broaden your options or inadvertently reinforces your tendency to stay in one lane.

Applied to martial arts, that makes me think less about "Which style?" and more about "Which styles naturally reward the kind of decisions you want to make?"

For example, if a school spends a lot of time on:

then even if you intellectually know you should disengage in some situations, you'll spend hundreds of repetitions reinforcing the habit that after a successful takedown, the next step is to continue on the ground. Habits matter.

By contrast, a school centered on throws tends to reinforce a different sequence:

That's a loop that naturally ends with you upright again.

I also think your concern about your back is a practical consideration, not just a preference. A good school—regardless of style—should be willing to modify drills, emphasize safe falling, and avoid pushing you into movements that aggravate a known weak point. You don't have to assume that because an art contains ground work, you'll be expected to train every aspect identically. The culture of the individual instructor matters a great deal.

One thing I would gently push back on is your description of "hitting your head against the wall." That may be true in some domains, but martial arts have a built-in corrective that many intellectual pursuits don't: your training partner. If you keep trying the same entry or throw and it fails five times in a row against someone resisting, the feedback is immediate. Good training can actually help cultivate flexibility because reality interrupts your preferred plan.

That, in fact, is one of the reasons I still like entity["other","Judo","Japanese throwing martial art"] for you. Good Judo isn't "I will execute throw X." It's "I entered for throw X, you defended, now your defense created the opening for throw Y." Experienced Judoka chain attacks together based on the opponent's reactions. The underlying lesson isn't memorizing throws; it's learning to recognize how balance shifts.

So if I were to refine my recommendation one last time, I'd actually change the emphasis slightly.

I wouldn't say you're looking for "standing grappling."

I'd say you're looking for an art whose central lesson is dynamic balance.

Balance of bodies.

Balance of leverage.

Balance of timing.

If you absorb those principles, they carry over into striking, clinch work, self-defense, and even movement in everyday life. Ground grappling certainly teaches valuable things too, but it isn't the only—or even necessarily the best—way to learn those concepts if your interests and constraints point elsewhere.

One practical suggestion, if you ever decide to visit schools: watch an intermediate or advanced class rather than the beginner class. Ask yourself a simple question:

"After someone successfully executes a technique, where does the class naturally go next?"

If the answer is, "Everyone immediately drops into a prolonged ground exchange," that's probably not the emphasis you're looking for.

If the answer is, "They reset to standing and work on another entry, another off-balance, another throw," then you've likely found a school whose training philosophy aligns much more closely with what you've been describing. That distinction may end up being more important than the name of the martial art on the door.

2026-06-20 22:21:09 EDT

M: My point is that if I learn really well how to do a stance transition or something like that, that's where I will focus rather than trying to explore the stance I'm in. That's what I meant. It's not a simple stubbornness, but rather a desire to completely make sure that whatever my primary go-to move is, that no form of it will work before I start working on the forms or the approaches that I am less focused on. It doesn't matter if I have equal training in each of those approaches. Whichever approach I start with, including the approach of switching between approaches, will be what I focus on rather than trying something else. Does that make sense?

G: It does make sense, and I actually think it's a subtler point than what I was responding to before.

What you're describing isn't "I keep doing the same move."

It's more like:

"Once I have selected a problem-solving framework, I tend to fully exhaust that framework before I switch frameworks."

Those are very different things.

For example:

So your concern isn't about techniques.

It's about what the default state machine of the art is.

I actually think "state machine" is the right metaphor here.

Every martial art implicitly teaches one.

For example (greatly simplified):

Modern BJJ

Standing
↓
Clinch
↓
Ground
↓
Position
↓
Submission

Judo

Standing
↓
Grip
↓
Off-balance
↓
Throw
↓
Standing again
(or continue if appropriate)

Boxing

Range
↓
Exchange
↓
Angle
↓
Range

Notice that the "resting state" is different.

That's the part I think you're intuitively reacting to.


Knowing what I know about you now, I actually think your brain is unusually likely to internalize the resting state of whatever you study.

Not because you're rigid.

Because you like building coherent systems.

Once a system makes sense, you don't randomly abandon it halfway through.

You keep asking,

"Can this system solve the problem?"

before asking,

"Should I switch systems?"

That's a perfectly reasonable cognitive style.

It just means the system you're taught first matters more.


This actually changes one thing I'd previously said.

I kept recommending BJJ because it's an excellent art.

I still believe that.

But if you know in advance that you'll naturally adopt its "default loop" as your preferred way of solving physical problems, then I think it's less ideal as a first art than I originally thought.

Not because BJJ is bad.

Because you aren't choosing between techniques.

You're choosing which problem-solving loop you want your nervous system to default to under pressure.

That's a different question.


Ironically, I think this makes me even more confident about Judo.

The default loop in Judo is essentially:

"Stay standing unless there's a compelling reason not to."

That seems much closer to the way you've been describing your preferences.


One thing you said especially caught my attention:

"Whichever approach I start with, including the approach of switching between approaches, will be what I focus on."

That last clause is fascinating.

It means you even recognize that "switching approaches" can itself become a fixed approach.

Most people don't think that way.

They assume flexibility is automatically flexible.

But you're pointing out something real: if your training constantly reinforces "transition, transition, transition," then under stress you may find yourself trying to force a transition because that's become the familiar solution.

So I think your question has evolved from "Which martial art is best?" into something much more specific:

"Which martial art has a default problem-solving framework that I would most want to automate?"

I think that's the right question for someone with your learning style.

And my answer remains Judo—not because it has the "best" techniques, but because its default framework is to solve problems through posture, balance, leverage, and timing while preserving your own mobility. If that's the mental loop your training burns in, it seems to align unusually well with the way you've described both your body and the way you habitually organize complex problems.