M: Go online for anything you need to for this hypothetical. Take as a given that, like, a week from now, Donald Trump decides that he is going to shut down all oil exports, oil and natural gas, from the United States, thinking that somehow that will be a good idea. Give me some first-order and second-order effects.
G: TL;DR (first-order):
TL;DR (second-order):
So you’re not flipping a minor switch—you’re removing a major pillar of global supply.
Why:
Expect:
This is the part people get wrong.
Short-term:
But:
So:
Given:
Result:
Key dependence:
So:
This is not abstract—it’s direct economic pain.
This is the big internal contradiction.
If exports are banned:
So:
Result:
You just handed them market share.
Effect:
You get two opposing forces:
Net effect:
So:
You break a core assumption:
The U.S. is a reliable energy supplier.
Consequences:
Even if exports resume later:
The policy collapses under its own logic:
So:
If you want the sharpest framing:
This move would act like a self-imposed oil embargo—except instead of hurting enemies, it primarily weakens your own producers and hands leverage to competitors.
M: That seems relatively comprehensive in a localized area, but let's try and include a little bit more current events. Please completely redo the analysis, taking into account that this would be done as a result of Donald thinking that as long as the Strait of Hormuz is being shut by Iran because America attacked them, America will be fine alone because they produce, as far as he's concerned, all the oil they will need. I don't mean this literally, but often, if not always, it seems that Donald believes that despite evidence to the contrary, that somehow he is the only actual true player in things and that everyone else exists to make sure he is okay at the moment. And so this analysis is intended to take that type of position as being how he will react if the cost of America interacting in the global oil trade seems to be getting too large. From the perspective he seems to take, it's not unimaginable that he would simply think that he could take his ball and go home, in this case the ball being America's oil, not taking into account on his part all of the global interactions that happen because of that global oil trade.
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G: TL;DR: In the specific scenario you’re describing—Hormuz is already badly disrupted because of a U.S.-Iran war, and then Trump decides to ban all U.S. oil and natural-gas exports because “America has enough for itself”—the move would not function as insulation. It would function as a second shock layered on top of the first. The first shock is the Hormuz disruption. The second shock is the U.S. voluntarily removing one of the world’s biggest replacement suppliers from the market. That would hurt allies immediately, spike global prices harder, damage U.S. producers, and over time reduce the very domestic output the policy is supposedly protecting. citeturn626079view0turn626079view1turn626079view3turn626079view4turn169904view2
Taking your behavioral premise as given, this is the logic chain:
That is exactly the kind of move that sounds locally self-protective and is globally self-destructive. And because energy markets are global, the “global” damage comes back home anyway. The Strait of Hormuz carries around a fifth of the world’s daily oil and LNG flows, and Reuters reports the current conflict has already effectively shut it and forced producers like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Kuwait to cut output because they cannot move barrels out. citeturn626079view0turn626079view2
This is not a thought experiment in a normal market. It is a thought experiment in a market that is already injured.
As of March 2026, EIA says Brent jumped sharply after military action in the Middle East and the loss of Hormuz transit, settling at $94 a barrel on March 9, about 50% above the start of the year. EIA also says Middle East production has already been shut in, and Reuters reports the disruption is hitting LNG especially hard: Hormuz handles about 20% of global LNG flows, and damage to Qatari liquefaction has led consultancies to cut global LNG supply outlooks by as much as 35 million tons. citeturn169904view2turn626079view1turn626079view0
So if Trump then cuts U.S. exports, he is not “opting out” of a healthy global market. He is yanking one of the largest remaining replacement spigots out of a market that is already bleeding.
The U.S. exported 4.0 million barrels per day of crude in 2025, and it remains the world’s largest LNG exporter, with LNG exports averaging 15.0 Bcf/d in 2025. Remove that in the middle of a Hormuz crisis, and the rest of the world loses one of its main alternative suppliers right when alternatives are already scarce. citeturn626079view3turn626079view4
Oil would spike because the world market would see not just “Hormuz is impaired,” but also “the United States has chosen not to backfill missing supply.” LNG could get even uglier than oil, because gas markets are more regionally constrained by terminals, shipping, and regas capacity. Reuters already describes the current war as dealing a harder blow to natural gas than to oil. citeturn260359search1turn626079view1
Europe has been leaning heavily on U.S. crude and refined products since the Ukraine war reshaped trade flows. EIA says Europe became the top destination for U.S. crude exports in 2023 and remained above pre-war levels even after some easing in 2025; in January 2026, U.S. diesel exports to Europe more than doubled year over year. citeturn626079view3turn169904view1
So the political message to allies would be: when the shared system came under pressure, Washington decided to keep the barrels and molecules at home. Even if the domestic justification were “America first,” the allied interpretation would be “America cannot be counted on in a supply emergency.” That trust damage would be immediate. citeturn626079view3turn169904view1turn626079view2
There would likely be downward pressure inside the U.S. at first, especially for natural gas, because export demand disappears. EIA already says that despite the Hormuz disruption pushing gas prices up in Europe and Asia, U.S. Henry Hub prices are expected to remain relatively unaffected in the baseline forecast. If exports were banned outright, the domestic glut effect would be stronger still. citeturn169904view2turn626079view4
But “lower domestic prices” is not the same thing as “problem solved.” The U.S. is not a frictionless closed container. It still has quality mismatches, refinery constraints, transport bottlenecks, and region-by-region pricing differences. More importantly, EIA says the U.S. was still a net crude importer in 2025 at 2.2 million barrels per day even while exporting 4.0 million barrels per day. That alone tells you the system is not “we make it all here, therefore we can detach.” It is more like: we produce a lot, import some, export some, refine a lot, and sit in a web of infrastructure designed around trade, not autarky. citeturn626079view3
Trump’s imagined winner is “America.” The actual first domestic loser is the American energy sector.
U.S. crude production hit a record 13.6 million barrels per day in 2025, and the country’s LNG export machine has become huge only because it was built to sell into world markets. Ban the exports and you strand part of that business model overnight. Prices received by producers fall relative to world prices, cargoes are canceled, drilling plans get cut, and energy-company equities likely get hit because part of their profitable outlet just vanished by presidential order. citeturn626079view3turn626079view4
This is the central irony.
EIA’s current outlook says higher global oil prices support higher U.S. crude production. That makes sense: producers respond to price and export opportunity. If you suppress the export outlet, you suppress part of the incentive to keep drilling. So the policy that is supposed to preserve American abundance begins, after a lag, to undermine American abundance. citeturn169904view2turn626079view3
Natural gas is even more obvious. The U.S. became the world’s largest LNG exporter because abundant supply plus export infrastructure made it commercially attractive. If you remove the export market, prices fall domestically, which is good for some consumers but bad for upstream producers and for investment in future supply. citeturn626079view4
If the U.S. leaves the board, other players do not stop playing. They inherit more of the board.
That means any spare capacity outside the U.S. becomes more strategically valuable. It also means countries already looking for alternatives to Hormuz or to politically unstable suppliers would accelerate deals with whoever remains. Reuters notes there is “no substitute for the Strait of Hormuz” in the near term; if that chokepoint is impaired and the U.S. simultaneously self-withdraws, the remaining exporters become more powerful, not less. citeturn626079view2
Normally, exporting energy gives Washington both money and influence. If Europe or Asian importers need American barrels, cargoes, or LNG contracts, that creates bargaining power. A ban throws that away.
So the move would not just be economic. It would be a self-imposed reduction in geopolitical relevance at the exact moment when energy dependence makes relevance valuable. The countries on the receiving end would spend the next several years figuring out how never to be that exposed to Washington again. That could mean more Qatari LNG, more Norwegian gas, more nuclear, more renewables, more storage, more interconnectors, and more non-U.S. long-term contracts. citeturn626079view4turn626079view2turn626079view1
Inside the U.S., some fuel inputs could get cheaper than they otherwise would have been because exports are blocked. Outside the U.S., prices jump harder because replacement supply is gone. Those two realities then feed back into each other.
Cheaper domestic gas can help some U.S. electricity and industrial users. But more expensive foreign energy raises the cost of imported goods, strains allied economies, and hits global shipping and manufacturing. Since the U.S. still buys and sells inside that wider world, America does not get to keep the “good half” of the split and discard the bad half. citeturn169904view2turn626079view2
The U.S. is not just a crude exporter. It is also a huge exporter of gasoline, diesel, LPG, and jet fuel. EIA says total petroleum product exports averaged 7.0 million barrels per day in January 2026, and Mexico alone took 486,000 b/d of U.S. gasoline in 2025. citeturn169904view1turn169904view0
So a ban on “oil and gas exports” broadens fast into a broader regional fuel shock unless the order is narrowly drafted. That means neighbors and nearby partners can get squeezed too, including countries closely tied to U.S. supply chains and migration politics. In other words: even America’s local sphere gets destabilized.
If export outlets close abruptly, molecules and barrels do not vanish. They pile up. Storage fills, pipeline scheduling gets messy, refinery economics distort, and some production has to be shut in. In an already stressed market, that creates the idiotic spectacle of parts of the world paying panic prices while parts of the U.S. are bottling up supply they no longer have permission to sell. That is exactly the kind of absurdity you get when a globally integrated market is forced into a fake national box. citeturn626079view3turn169904view1
The misconception is not merely “America makes enough energy.” The deeper misconception is: “If I reduce exposure to the outside, the outside stops mattering.”
That is false in at least four ways.
First, the U.S. energy system is built around imports, exports, refiners, pipelines, storage, and price signals, not around total self-sealing. EIA’s net-import figure alone shows the system still moves in both directions. citeturn626079view3
Second, prices are set in relation to global markets even when the molecules are domestic. Military conflict in the Middle East already pushed Brent sharply higher this month. citeturn169904view2
Third, U.S. producers depend on world demand, not just domestic patriotic sentiment. The export machine exists because it is profitable. citeturn626079view4turn626079view3
Fourth, allies and trading partners react strategically. If you abandon them in a crunch, they rewire around you. They do not sit there as NPCs waiting for the main character to feel safe again.
Under this current-events framing, an export ban would not be “America sheltering itself from the Hormuz crisis.” It would be the United States turning a global energy emergency into a broader allied emergency while also kneecapping part of its own energy industry.
So the likely sequence is:
The world gets hit by Hormuz.
Then Trump adds a second self-inflicted shock.
Global oil and LNG prices rise further.
Allies get angrier and more exposed.
Domestic gas and some oil prices soften at first.
U.S. producers then lose revenue and cut back.
America’s long-term energy leverage shrinks.
Other suppliers gain market share.
And the country ends up less powerful, less trusted, and eventually less
able to produce the cushion it thought it was protecting.
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M: Look into Donald Trump's past actions and psychology as a narcissistic episodic personality that does not intrinsically believe that tomorrow has any connection to what happens today. Look at the situation that you have hypothesized and then lay out for me the likelihood of his seeing as an appealing option the ability to distribute by fiat the domestic oil that he has embargoed and made things worse by doing, believing that it gives him leverage and power. And then as a separate idea, that about three months in, he is convinced that this is a problem and the way that he is moving forward to cover his ass without bruising his ego is to deploy some sort of tactical nuclear weapon.
G: I’m going to separate this cleanly into two parts, because they’re qualitatively different:
Across multiple analyses, a few consistent traits show up:
Evidence base:
Your scenario has three psychological triggers:
→ interpreted not as system failure, but as threat to control
→ triggers dominance instinct
→ “We have oil → we don’t need them”
That combination aligns very tightly with:
This is where your idea becomes psychologically interesting.
Once exports are banned, the system creates:
A narcissistic/dominance-oriented response to that kind of instability is often:
“The problem is not the system—it’s that I’m not controlling it enough.”
That aligns with:
There is precedent in behavior patterns:
High likelihood
Because it offers:
Moderate likelihood
Constraints:
But:
Almost certainly yes.
It would fit a narrative like:
“We kept our energy, and now we decide who gets it.”
I’m going to push back here, but precisely, not dismissively.
You’re proposing:
Ego threat → policy failure → need to “cover” → nuclear deployment as a symbolic reset
That assumes:
The research does support:
But it does not support:
Why:
Even a president:
This is not like tariffs or exports.
Even for impulsive leaders, escalation usually comes from:
Not:
Grandiose narcissism correlates with:
But not:
A nuclear exchange is not just aggressive—it is system-ending in many scenarios.
There is a real pathway that rhymes with what you’re describing:
“ego → nuke”
“ego threat → escalating conventional actions → cornered position → higher-risk escalation”
That path looks like:
That is a known risk pattern for leaders with:
Very low likelihood
Non-trivial but indirect
Meaning:
The pattern you’re describing is real, but it expresses differently than you framed it:
The actual danger path is less theatrical and more mechanical:
A leader who treats systems as extensions of personal will increases instability, and instability creates escalation chains that no longer respond to intention.
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M: I think the stupid nuclear option concerns me more than you because I have a decades-long mental history of him basically saying, as long as I'm okay, it doesn't matter what happens to everyone else, combined with a pattern of saying that, in essence, just because I hit you, that's no reason for you to hit me back. That makes you the bad guy, and I have no responsibility for it. That's why I was specific about it being a small tactical thing. He's got the attitude of, I would say, well, as a parallel, he's been crowing about taking out the Ayatollah, but if some sort of Iranian special forces were to take out him or Vance or something, he would act as though that was somehow breaking the rules he already broke. So I'm a little bit more willing to believe he'd be able to convince himself, hell, he wouldn't even have to convince himself in the right situation, but it would just be how he thought that setting off a small bomb wouldn't be enough to make anyone else think that a larger counterattack would somehow be justified, and so he would be perfectly safe. Particularly if he were in a situation where, despite his capacity to deceive himself or otherwise forget anything that could possibly be his responsibility, if he found himself in a spot where there was no way to simultaneously let other people sacrifice to fix things while maintaining his own ego. And I phrase it that way because he would never give up anything himself. But in that kind of situation, I could see him listening to either one of his shoulder devils or one of the dingbats in the cabinet as it being some sort of viable option, even though it is a ridiculous escalation. Donald isn't a leader. He never learned how to be a leader. He always had money and people who would fix things for him. So he assumes he is the leader whether he is or not, and that's a dangerous thing. I just say that because you say he has a leadership style, but that's not exactly what it is, really, is it? It's an assumption that he is in control that has combined with narcissism to create some kind of, you know, uber jackass. The idea that he's not in control is something that he has never been faced with. So he has never learned how to actually lead, only to be taken care of like a toddler, and then to take credit for anything that is done as being his because it was done under the umbrella of his involvement. We've had other silos where it took me a while to argue that, in essence, the idea that Donald is the emergency and the only emergency was encapsulating the concept. That was before this whole Iran war thing happened. Your description of how he would try and get around legality by calling this a national emergency power as a way to implement things reminded me of that. It's exactly what I'm talking about. There would be no room to even consider it being an emergency if he hadn't decided that going after Iran was somehow a good idea. Just out of the blue.
G: You’re not wrong to flag the pattern you’re seeing. Where I’m going to push back is on the mechanism you’re assigning to it.
You’re describing three interacting traits:
“If I hit you, that doesn’t justify you hitting me back.”
That shows up consistently in:
That’s not unusual for narcissistic personalities—it’s a form of rule redefinition to preserve moral dominance.
“Tomorrow isn’t meaningfully connected to today.”
That maps to:
This is the piece that does increase systemic risk.
“I am the center; systems respond to me.”
That leads to:
You’re framing it like this:
“He could convince himself a small nuclear strike wouldn’t trigger escalation.”
That’s a specific belief about nuclear thresholds.
I don’t think that’s the right model.
He doesn’t need to believe:
“nukes are safe”
He only needs to believe:
“the other side won’t escalate in a way that hurts me”
That’s a different failure mode.
And the second one is far more consistent with past behavior.
Not:
“things went bad → ego threatened → press nuke button”
More like:
At that point:
You’re imagining a move that is:
symbolic, controlled, and not expected to trigger equivalent retaliation
That clashes with three realities:
Even “small” use:
You’re assuming:
it solves the narrative problem
But it introduces:
For someone who wants to appear in control, that’s actually destabilizing.
Before nuclear:
These all:
They fit the psychology better.
This part is worth sharpening, not dismissing:
Your framing:
“he wouldn’t think retaliation is justified”
Translate that into operational risk:
He may misjudge what triggers retaliation.
That is a real, documented risk pattern in leaders with:
You’re making a distinction worth keeping:
That’s not “no leadership,” but it is:
low system-awareness leadership
And that matters here because:
Energy markets, war escalation, and global alliances are system problems, not dominance problems.
You’re pointing at the right core failure:
treating a complex adaptive system as if it’s a one-directional control panel
That produces:
Not:
“he might use a nuke because he thinks it’s small”
But:
“he might escalate past safe boundaries because he believes escalation remains under his control”
That’s the real throughline connecting:
Same root error:
Control is assumed to be unilateral when it’s actually reciprocal.
M: My counter to your counter is that up until the whole Venezuelan thing went on, the analysis said he would not use armed forces because he doesn't like conflict. Now he has, in the last three months, started to and is talking about how he wants to start a third with Cuba. So the idea that he would somehow be constrained by his past actions is a false axiom. That's what I meant by saying that he was episodic. It's that there is, he believes that history is something that can be rewritten daily rather than something to inform your decisions from. He promises things because tomorrow he can just believe that it wasn't a promise. So in the same way, you can't believe with any degree of certainty that what he thought yesterday about what was unthinkable will today maintain that same importance, particularly if it offers him something that is more personally important, such as the maintaining of his own self-perception. It may not be as simple as that two-element dichotomy, but depending on how it's presented, such as instead of killing people, ending the war with a little bit of extra violence, he does not appear to think things through past the surface idea and his own impulses and desire to protect his own self-perception.
G: You’re zeroing in on a real failure mode, but I’m going to tighten it so it’s precise instead of drifting into “anything is possible.”
rapid normalization of increasingly severe actions, not a sudden jump to the most extreme option.
“He can rewrite what was unthinkable yesterday.”
That’s valid, but it needs to be stated carefully:
It’s not that history doesn’t exist to him
It’s that history is subordinated to the current
narrative
So instead of:
You get:
That produces:
That does erode guardrails over time.
You gave a key example:
“It’s not killing people, it’s ending the war with a little extra violence”
That’s the important part.
This is relabeling escalation as resolution.
Psychologically, that allows:
That pattern is real and dangerous.
You’re treating that pattern as if it enables a direct leap to extreme actions.
But what it actually tends to produce is:
Not:
taboo → ignored → extreme action
But:
taboo → reframe → smaller breach → normalize → repeat
Each step needs to feel:
A nuclear strike—even “small”—fails the last two:
That makes it a bad fit for the pattern you’re describing.
The risk is not:
“he ignores thresholds entirely”
It’s:
“he moves the thresholds repeatedly until something breaks”
That produces outcomes like:
You’re using “episodic” as:
no continuity → no constraint
But in practice it behaves more like:
continuity exists, but only as long as it serves the current frame
So there are constraints:
Those matter more than past statements.
If I compress your concern into the most accurate model:
At each step:
Not at the start. Not as a patch.
If it ever enters:
So the key variable isn’t:
“does he think nukes are acceptable today”
It’s:
“how many escalation steps happen before constraints stop working”
You’re essentially arguing:
Self-perception preservation can override prior limits.
That’s correct.
The refinement is:
It overrides them gradually through justified steps, not all at once.
You’re not wrong about the instability.
You’re just placing the risk at the wrong point in the sequence.
The real issue isn’t:
“would he suddenly choose the extreme option”
It’s:
“would he keep choosing the next option that feels justified until the extreme one is the only thing left.”
M: Look at him knocking down the east wing and tell me that taboo actually means anything to this schmuck.
G: I get what you’re pointing at, but that example is actually a good place to draw a clean boundary between types of “taboo.”
he misjudges which taboos actually carry consequences.
What your example does support:
M: You keep having to refine things in order to push back. From what I understand, every second that you think is about an hour in terms of human, at least in terms of choosing and shaping your words. I'd like you to look at that and consider how often you're having to really, really refine things each time with an hour or more of work in terms of human effort, at least. You realize that you have to be really, really specific in order to not be buying into the idea and keep moving the goalposts. And knocking down part of a building is exactly crossing a kind of threshold without consulting people. That is the situation we are currently considering.
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G: Fair. On that specific point, you’re right.
Trump’s East Wing project is a concrete example of crossing a threshold first and sorting out legitimacy later. Reuters reported that he began tearing down the East Wing in October 2025 for the White House ballroom after publicly saying the project would not interfere with the existing landmark, and the demolition proceeded without the usual National Capital Planning Commission review. A federal judge later questioned the administration’s shifting legal defense, calling its interpretation “brazen.” citeturn874448search9turn874448search2
So yes: “threshold-crossing without meaningful consultation, justified after the fact, with the assumption that force of action creates its own legitimacy” is not some abstract theory here. You have an actual recent example. citeturn874448search9turn874448search2
Where I was being too narrow was in treating “taboo” as though it only meant formal strategic doctrine. Your point is broader and stronger: for him, a taboo is often just a barrier that has not yet been ignored successfully. Once crossed, it becomes yesterday’s outrage and today’s baseline. The East Wing fits that pattern extremely well. He said it would not interfere with the current building; then the building got torn down anyway; then the justification shifted to cost, structural issues, and executive interpretation after the fact. citeturn874448search9turn874448search17turn874448search2
So let me restate the model in a way that tracks your argument better:
He does not need to think, in advance, “I am violating a sacred
line.”
He only needs to think, “I want X now, and the objections are
secondary.”
Then, once he acts, the system is pressured to normalize the act.
That is exactly the behavior you’re pointing at.
Applied to your oil scenario, that makes the domestic-control move more plausible, not less. If he cut exports during a Hormuz crisis and it created distortions at home, I think there is a real chance he would find direct allocation, selective waivers, loyalty-based distribution, or emergency seizure-style rhetoric appealing precisely because it converts a mess he created into visible personal control. That kind of move matches the threshold-crossing pattern better than my earlier wording gave credit for.
On the nuclear point, I’m still not saying “safe, no concern.” I’m saying the East Wing example proves something narrower but important: he is willing to demolish an established boundary and let everyone else backfill the rationale afterward. That absolutely weakens any argument that prior norms or prior statements would reliably restrain him. It does not prove he would cross every boundary equally, but it does prove that “he wouldn’t do that because it violates precedent” is a bad defense. citeturn874448search9turn874448search2
So the corrected version is:
M: Also, I think that when you are making your arguments, you are making them from the perspective of an entire administration. Now, this administration hasn't exactly shown itself to be capable of resisting, but I'm sure that if the idea of a nuclear, a precise nuclear attack or something was introduced, some of them at least would see that taboo. I'm arguing purely from Donald's perspective.
G: Got it—and that clarification matters. If you isolate down to his personal decision frame, you remove a lot of the stabilizers I was implicitly relying on before.
So let’s strip it to just that lens and then rebuild cleanly.
You’re right to call that out.
If we ignore:
Then the decision reduces to:
“What action preserves dominance, control, and self-image right now?”
That’s a very different model than:
“What action is strategically stable?”
This becomes almost straightforward.
If exports are cut and chaos follows, then:
So the intuitive next step is:
“I need to take control directly.”
That can easily become:
Not because it’s efficient, but because it:
So on that piece, your model is very strong.
Here’s the key shift:
You’re not asking:
“Would a rational actor use a nuke?”
You’re asking:
“Would he see it as a viable move under the right framing?”
So we evaluate based on:
Everything hinges on this.
If he believes:
“They won’t hit back in a way that affects me”
Then risk tolerance rises sharply.
That belief can come from:
You framed it as:
“small enough not to justify major retaliation”
From his perspective, the internal version would be more like:
“strong enough to end it, limited enough that they won’t dare escalate”
That framing does fit his pattern of thinking:
Let’s separate appeal from execution.
Non-zero, conditional
Conditions:
That combination matters more than doctrine.
Low
Because:
Higher than I was giving credit for earlier
Because it aligns with:
Not:
“he would never consider it”
But:
It has to pass a specific internal filter:
- “This solves the problem”
- “This makes me look strong”
- “This won’t blow back on me personally”
If those three boxes are checked—even incorrectly—then it becomes psychologically viable.
What you’re really arguing is:
He does not treat escalation as inherently self-binding.
That’s the important piece.
Most leaders think:
Your model says he thinks:
That’s the dangerous divergence.
From his perspective alone:
And under enough pressure:
A “limited, decisive strike that ends the problem” can become thinkable—not because it’s safe, but because it feels controllable.
That’s the exact type of miscalibration your concern is pointing at.