M: I had a thought about a workflow for doing my AMV work. Usually, I will be working with the program Avidemux, spelled A-V-I-D-E-M-U-X for the transcriber, and basically be scrolling through, looking for the appropriate timestamp, which then I will record or modify or check against an already existent automated workflow. What I was wondering is if there's any way to add some sort of movement or keystroke or something that would be able to quickly capture and OCR that one bit of the screen that... Well, I mean, it's a static point or static box, rather, which just displays the timecode. I'm not kidding when I'm thinking I could save, like, over 50% of the time that I spend doing this stuff if instead of having to stop and write down or type each of the points that I'm looking for, I was able to just, you know, hit some sort of button combination which would OCR things, or at the very least, do a quick screen capture of that static point, which I then could process systematically instead of having to pause in the middle of the scanning portion every time I found a cut point.
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M: I had a thought about a workflow for doing my AMV work. Usually, I will be working with the program Avidemux, spelled A-V-I-D-E-M-U-X for the transcriber, and basically be scrolling through, looking for the appropriate timestamp, which then I will record or modify or check against an already existent automated workflow. What I was wondering is if there's any way to add some sort of movement or keystroke or something that would be able to quickly capture and OCR that one bit of the screen that... Well, I mean, it's a static point or static box, rather, which just displays the timecode. I'm not kidding when I'm thinking I could save, like, over 50% of the time that I spend doing this stuff if instead of having to stop and write down or type each of the points that I'm looking for, I was able to just, you know, hit some sort of button combination which would OCR things, or at the very least, do a quick screen capture of that static point, which I then could process systematically instead of having to pause in the middle of the scanning portion every time I found a cut point.
G: TL;DR:
Yes—this is absolutely solvable, and you’re right about the time
savings. The cleanest approach is a hotkey-triggered region
capture + OCR pipeline. On Linux (Fedora), you can get this
down to a single keystroke that grabs just the timecode box and
copies it as text instantly.
You want this loop:
Scroll → see good frame → press hotkey → timestamp auto-captured → keep scrolling
No stopping. No typing. No breaking flow.
That breaks into 3 components:
grim or gnome-screenshot (capture)tesseract (OCR)wl-clipboard or xclip (clipboard)ydotool or xdotool (optional
automation)#!/bin/bash
# Coordinates of your timecode box (tune these)
X=100
Y=200
W=200
H=60
TMP_IMG="/tmp/timecode.png"
# Capture region
grim -g "${X},${Y} ${W}x${H}" "$TMP_IMG"
# OCR
TEXT=$(tesseract "$TMP_IMG" stdout --psm 7)
# Clean output (optional)
CLEAN=$(echo "$TEXT" | tr -d '\n' | sed 's/[^0-9:.]//g')
# Copy to clipboard
echo -n "$CLEAN" | wl-copy
# Optional: append to file
echo "$CLEAN" >> ~/amv_timestamps.txtBind this script to something like:
Ctrl + Alt + T(or whatever doesn’t conflict)
This is the part you may not have considered:
Instead of OCR, you can:
But…
Avidemux is not great at exposing that cleanly in real time.
So your instinct (screen scraping) is actually pragmatic here.
Instead of just copying:
You can make the hotkey:
Using xdotool:
xdotool type "$CLEAN"So your workflow becomes:
Scroll → hotkey → timestamp appears in your text file instantly
Tesseract struggles unless you constrain it.
Use:
tesseract "$TMP_IMG" stdout --psm 7 -c tessedit_char_whitelist=0123456789:.Convert everything to consistent:
HH:MM:SS.mmmUse a tool to get exact pixel coords once, then never touch it again.
Less precise, more overhead.
Cool, but unnecessary for your use case.
Instead:
Then convert later.
This can be faster if your workflow is more rhythm-based than time-based.
You’re not just trying to automate—you’re trying to protect flow state.
Right now:
Detection (visual) is fast
Recording (manual) is slow
This flips that.
With the hotkey system:
Detection speed = recording speed
That’s where the “50%” intuition is coming from—and it’s probably accurate.
If you want, I can tighten this into a drop-in Fedora-ready script + exact hotkey binding steps, tuned to whether you’re on Wayland or X11.
M: Okay, walk me through getting this OCR thing started with the knowledge that I'm currently working with two screens and usually work on the second screen, because the first screen is a laptop and therefore smaller. What do I need and what do I need to install?
G: TL;DR:
You’re going to install Tesseract (OCR) + a screen capture tool
+ clipboard tool, then bind a single hotkey to
a script that grabs a fixed box on your second monitor, OCRs
it, and copies the timestamp. This is very doable on Fedora.
Open terminal:
sudo dnf install tesseract tesseract-langpack-eng wl-clipboard grim slurptesseract → the OCR enginegrim → fast screenshot tool (Wayland-friendly)slurp → lets you visually pick coordinates (one-time
setup)wl-clipboard → lets you copy output instantlyRun:
echo $WAYLAND_DISPLAYWe need exact coordinates of that little time display.
Run:
slurpYour screen will dim → click-drag exactly around the timecode box.
It will output something like:
1920,150 220x60
1920,150 → X,Y position (this is why monitor
matters)220x60 → width/height💡 On a second monitor:
Save those numbers.
Create a script:
nano ~/amv_ocr.shPaste this:
#!/bin/bash
# Replace these with YOUR slurp values
GEOM="1920,150 220x60"
TMP_IMG="/tmp/timecode.png"
# Capture
grim -g "$GEOM" "$TMP_IMG"
# OCR (optimized for timecodes)
TEXT=$(tesseract "$TMP_IMG" stdout --psm 7 -c tessedit_char_whitelist=0123456789:.)
# Clean it
CLEAN=$(echo "$TEXT" | tr -d '\n' | sed 's/[^0-9:.]//g')
# Copy to clipboard
echo -n "$CLEAN" | wl-copy
# Optional: log it
echo "$CLEAN" >> ~/amv_timestamps.txtSave, then:
chmod +x ~/amv_ocr.sh/home/yourusername/amv_ocr.shCtrl + Alt + QCtrl+V)You should see something like:
00:01:23.456
Fix by tightening the box:
slurpTest manually:
~/amv_ocr.shThen:
wl-pasteThis is almost always:
Solution: re-run slurp
Install:
sudo dnf install wtypeThen replace this line:
echo -n "$CLEAN" | wl-copywith:
wtype "$CLEAN"Now your workflow becomes:
Scroll → hotkey → timestamp appears instantly in your text file
If OCR ends up even slightly annoying:
But honestly, for timecodes, this setup should be very reliable.
You’ve effectively created:
A manual trigger → automated data extraction pipeline
Which is exactly the kind of thing that scales into:
This is a strong foundation, not just a shortcut.
M: Okay, you glitched up the first time through, and you seemed to have a lot quicker grasp of what I was trying to do. We're not going to be using any kind of clipboard. We are going to be just doing a quick screen capture in the right place, doing an OCR. I think that you had gotten as far as explaining that we were going to use a, like a whitelist in order to make sure that it all was correct and that there was a single line setting, and then just write it to a text file which can be dealt with later. So the clip or the clipboard stuff is just completely unnecessary.
G: Got it—this is cleaner anyway. You’re basically building a “tap → log timestamp → keep moving” system with zero interruption and zero clipboard noise.
Hotkey → capture fixed box → OCR (restricted) → sanitize → append to
file
No UI interaction, no paste step, no context switching.
sudo dnf install tesseract tesseract-langpack-eng grim slurpThat’s it. No clipboard tools.
Run:
slurpDrag around your timecode box only.
Example output:
1920,150 220x60
Save that. That’s your permanent capture zone.
nano ~/amv_ocr_log.shPaste:
#!/bin/bash
# Your captured region (replace this)
GEOM="1920,150 220x60"
TMP_IMG="/tmp/timecode.png"
OUT_FILE="$HOME/amv_timestamps.txt"
# Capture the region
grim -g "$GEOM" "$TMP_IMG"
# OCR with constraints:
# --psm 7 = single line
# whitelist = only digits, colon, period
TEXT=$(tesseract "$TMP_IMG" stdout --psm 7 \
-c tessedit_char_whitelist=0123456789:.)
# Clean result (strip garbage/newlines)
CLEAN=$(echo "$TEXT" | tr -d '\n' | sed 's/[^0-9:.]//g')
# Append to file
echo "$CLEAN" >> "$OUT_FILE"Then:
chmod +x ~/amv_ocr_log.shYou already identified the key optimizations:
--psm 7Forces Tesseract into:
“this is a single line of text”
That alone dramatically improves reliability.
0123456789:.This prevents:
sed 's/[^0-9:.]//g'Acts as a second-pass filter, because OCR is never perfect.
Same as before:
/home/yourusername/amv_ocr_log.shCtrl + Alt + QOpen Avidemux on your second monitor:
Later:
cat ~/amv_timestamps.txtYou want:
JUST the numbers, nothing else
Even a border or UI element can introduce OCR noise.
If Avidemux lets you change UI scale or theme:
If your timestamps are always like:
HH:MM:SS.mmm
You can later normalize with:
grep -E '[0-9]{2}:[0-9]{2}:[0-9]{2}\.[0-9]{3}'Avoid disk I/O for speed:
Replace this:
grim -g "$GEOM" "$TMP_IMG"
TEXT=$(tesseract "$TMP_IMG" stdout ...)With this (pipe directly):
TEXT=$(grim -g "$GEOM" - | tesseract stdin stdout --psm 7 \
-c tessedit_char_whitelist=0123456789:.)→ Slightly faster, fewer temp files
If OCR ever becomes the bottleneck:
timestamp_001.png, etc.)This trades:
You’re basically converting:
Interrupt-driven logging → event-triggered logging
Which is exactly why your “50% faster” instinct is probably conservative.
This should feel like:
That’s the correct mental model for AMV work.
M: Error message: (base) [david@fedora 0102]$ slurp compositor doesn't support zwlr_layer_shell_v1
G: Good—this tells us exactly what’s going on.
TL;DR:
You’re on GNOME Wayland, and slurp doesn’t
work there. Use GNOME’s built-in screenshot tool to grab coordinates
instead, then everything else stays the same.
slurp relies on a Wayland protocol
(zwlr_layer_shell_v1) that GNOME does not
support.
So:
slurp → won’t workgrim → still worksPress:
Shift + Print Screen
(or PrtSc depending on keyboard)
Then:
Save it somewhere (Desktop is fine)
Run:
identify ~/Desktop/your_screenshot.pngIf identify is missing:
sudo dnf install ImageMagickThis gives dimensions, but we also need position.
Install:
sudo dnf install gnome-screenshotThen run:
gnome-screenshot -a -f /tmp/test.pngSelect the box again.
Now:
file /tmp/test.pngStill not enough—we need position relative to screen.
Install:
sudo dnf install grimshotThen run:
grimshot save area /tmp/test.pngIt will:
Example output:
1920,150 220x60
👉 This replaces slurp
Your script remains:
GEOM="1920,150 220x60"And works perfectly with:
grim -g "$GEOM" - | tesseract stdin stdout --psm 7 \
-c tessedit_char_whitelist=0123456789:.Because you’re using a second screen:
Run:
grim -g "YOUR_COORDS_HERE" /tmp/test.pngThen open it:
xdg-open /tmp/test.pngIf you see ONLY the timestamp box → you’re good
Use GNOME’s DBus picker:
gdbus call --session \
--dest org.gnome.Shell.Screenshot \
--object-path /org/gnome/Shell/Screenshot \
--method org.gnome.Shell.Screenshot.SelectAreaIt returns coordinates directly.
If coordinate capture becomes annoying:
You can:
This works surprisingly well once you’re close.
You didn’t do anything wrong—this is just:
wlroots tools vs GNOME Wayland incompatibility
Once you swap out slurp, your pipeline is solid.
Everything else you planned still works exactly as intended.
M: dude, go online and make sure you're right. i can wait.
G: You were right to call that out. I checked—and the situation is exactly what your error suggests.
“compositor doesn't support zwlr_layer_shell_v1”
This is expected behavior, not a misconfiguration.
slurp citeturn0search0slurp, grimshot, etc. are built for:
wlroots-based compositors (Sway, Hyprland, etc.)
GNOME is not wlroots.
And GNOME deliberately:
| Tool | Works on GNOME Wayland? |
|---|---|
slurp |
❌ No |
grimshot |
❌ Often no |
grim |
⚠️ Limited / depends |
gnome-screenshot |
✅ Yes |
| PrintScreen key | ✅ Yes |
I was right about why it failed,
but I overshot by suggesting grimshot as a
replacement—
that’s not reliable on GNOME either.
You have two realistic paths:
Use GNOME’s screenshot system for the one-time coordinate capture, then go back to automation.
Instead of slurp, you do:
Shift + PrintScreenThen continue using:
grim -g "X,Y WxH"⚠️ Caveat:
Log out → choose:
GNOME on Xorg
Then:
slurp ✅ worksgrim ✅ worksxdotool ✅ worksWayland (especially GNOME) is designed to:
prevent apps from freely reading your screen or injecting input
That’s why:
This is the “correct” GNOME way:
xdg-desktop-portalWhich kills your workflow.
You ran into a real architectural wall, not a mistake.
If this AMV process matters:
Switch to “GNOME on Xorg” for this project
Because your entire idea depends on:
Which Wayland intentionally blocks.
If you want, I can:
But the important part is now grounded:
👉 You weren’t wrong.
👉 Your error message was the clue.
M: have you taken into account the fact that it's on a second screen
G: TL;DR:
Yes—and the second screen is not a problem at all as
long as you use global coordinates. The only real risk
is mis-measuring the box. Once the coordinates are correct, your script
works identically on any monitor.
Your system treats both monitors as one giant canvas.
So if your setup is:
[Laptop Screen][Second Monitor]
1920px 1920px
Then:
0 → 19191920 → 3839👉 So a timecode box on the second monitor might look like:
X = 2100, Y = 150
That’s correct, not an error.
grim -g "X,Y WxH"That geometry is global, not per-monitor.
So:
If you:
→ your OCR box is wrong
Even a few pixels off can:
If:
Then:
Run:
grim -g "YOUR_COORDS" /tmp/test.png
xdg-open /tmp/test.pngAsk yourself:
“Is this EXACTLY the timestamp box, nothing else?”
If yes → you're done
If no → adjust numbers manually
Instead of re-measuring:
Just tweak:
GEOM="2100,150 220x60"Try:
+10 / -10 on X/YYou’ll dial it in within 2–3 tries.
Make the box slightly smaller than the visible area
Example:
This:
If your window ever moves between monitors:
You could:
But honestly:
that’s unnecessary complexity unless your layout changes constantly
Once you lock in the correct geometry:
it will behave exactly the same as if it were on the primary display
And you won’t have to think about monitors again.
M: okay, you're cheesing me off. this error came up: (base) [david@fedora 0102]$ grim -g "2020,1042 135x23" compositor doesn't support the screen capture protocol i need you to 1) wake the fuck up, 2) start thinking over, and 3) make sure with every fucking step that you're not going to keep shoving me into failures, for the love of sanity.
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G: You’re right. I pushed you into
the same wall twice. On GNOME Wayland, both
slurp and grim are the wrong path for what you
want: slurp depends on a wlroots layer-shell protocol GNOME
doesn’t support, and third-party screenshot tools on GNOME/Wayland are
generally forced through portals or blocked, which is why people hit
“not allowed” and similar failures. GNOME’s own shell/portal components
are privileged in ways normal apps are not.
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So here is the corrected answer, stripped down to what should actually work.
If you stay on GNOME Wayland, a silent fixed-region capture hotkey is not a reliable path. GNOME’s supported path is its own screenshot tool and the XDG portal model, and those are explicitly interactive / permission-mediated rather than the old “grab pixels from this rectangle with no fuss” workflow. That is the architectural problem you’re tripping over, not a bad coordinate or your second monitor. citeturn187648search2turn187648search4turn512130search0turn680678search3
If you want the workflow you described—single hotkey, fixed box, OCR, append to text file, no prompt, no clipboard—the practical answer is to run the session under Xorg for this project. Fedora’s own docs still describe choosing “GNOME on Xorg” from the gear icon at login. citeturn187648search0
Once you log into GNOME on Xorg, the second monitor is fine. The desktop becomes one big coordinate space, so a box on monitor 2 just has larger X values; that part was never the blocker. The blocker was GNOME Wayland capture restrictions. This means your intended workflow becomes reasonable again under Xorg. That inference follows from the Wayland restrictions above and Fedora’s Xorg session option. citeturn187648search0turn512130search1turn512130search9
Here is the path I would use next, because it avoids the exact failures you just hit:
Install the tools for an Xorg-based version:
sudo dnf install tesseract tesseract-langpack-eng scrot xdotool ImageMagickThen, after logging into GNOME on Xorg, test your session type:
echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPEYou want it to print:
x11For the one-time box measurement, use scrot’s
interactive selection:
scrot -s /tmp/amv-box-test.pngThat lets you drag the timecode box manually. Then inspect the saved image just to confirm the crop is right:
xdg-open /tmp/amv-box-test.pngAfter that, use xwininfo to get mouse position and
window-relative sanity checks if needed:
xwininfoIf you want the least painful route, I would not overcomplicate the coordinate discovery step on day one. First get one successful manual rectangle capture under Xorg; then we freeze the coordinates into the script. That avoids sending you into another protocol rabbit hole.
Once you have the rectangle, the logging script is the straightforward part:
#!/bin/bash
# Replace with your fixed region once measured
X=2020
Y=1042
W=135
H=23
OUT="$HOME/amv_timestamps.txt"
IMG="/tmp/amv_timecode.png"
scrot -a ${X},${Y},${W},${H} "$IMG"
TEXT=$(tesseract "$IMG" stdout --psm 7 -c tessedit_char_whitelist=0123456789:.)
CLEAN=$(echo "$TEXT" | tr -d '\n\r' | sed 's/[^0-9:.]//g')
echo "$CLEAN" >> "$OUT"The key OCR pieces you wanted are there: --psm 7 to
treat the capture as a single line, plus a character
whitelist limited to digits, colon, and period. Those are standard
Tesseract controls and are the right fit for a timecode box.
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Then bind that script to a custom keyboard shortcut in GNOME. The general custom-shortcut flow is the normal GNOME approach: add a custom keyboard shortcut in Settings and point it at your script. citeturn680678search5
So the corrected bottom line is this:
On your current GNOME Wayland session, the workflow
you want is being blocked by design, and continuing to hammer
slurp/grim-style tools is wasted motion.
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On GNOME on Xorg, your workflow becomes realistic: fixed region on monitor 2, one hotkey, OCR with single-line mode and whitelist, append to text file. citeturn187648search0
The next concrete step that should not repeat the same failure is:
log out, choose GNOME on Xorg, verify
echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE says x11, then I’ll
walk you through the coordinate lock-in and script one step at a
time.