M: I've tried this in other places by myself. I thought maybe you could help because, well, there's a lot of generic stuff to sift through, or rather the title of it is generic. Okay, when I was playing piano around middle school, there was a particular song which was, for my skill level, very appropriate. It was very, what's the appropriate terminology? Bear with me on the terminology, I might get it wrong. It's been a while. But it was a very legato song punctuated by a triplet, I don't know, what do you call it, a bridge or something like that. I'm sorry, I'm getting distracted. Anyway, the problem is that it was called something like Autumn Leaves or Falling Leaves. And like I alluded to earlier, it's a very generic name. So whenever I've gone looking for the sheet music again, it always ends up being obscured by various other songs that have occurred that have nothing to do with it. Like I said, this is just a piece for piano. I think it's only for piano. The reason why it was a good song was because even though I didn't have the nimbleness to do the really complex stuff, it allowed for a lot of emoting because it was like andante or something, except for the faster parts. Can you please go online and see if you can help me try to identify the particular song? This would have been sheet music available in around 1994, I believe. I can't tell you whether or not at the time it was existing for very long or if it was a recent publication. It wasn't a hugely long piece of music, like three or four pages, although it's entirely possible that I'm wrong on that part. It was... Basically a series of drawn-out arpeggios from low to high with musical decorations briefly in between each one. I think the point was to make something that sounded like falling leaves in that it was slow and languid, except for occasional flurries where bunches of leaves would fall. I don't know if that part will help, but I feel better having said it.

G: TL;DR (most likely hit first):
You are probably remembering entity["artwork","Autumn","Martha Mier piano piece"] or a very similar late-elementary/early-intermediate teaching piece from the 90s that imitates falling leaves with rolling arpeggios + brief faster figures. The exact title may not actually be Autumn Leaves—that’s why you keep getting buried by the jazz standard.


The strongest candidates (based on your description)

1) Martha Mier – Autumn (or similar pieces from her Romantic Impressions series)

image_group{"aspect_ratio":"1:1","query":["Martha Mier Autumn piano sheet music","Romantic Impressions Martha Mier piano book","Martha Mier intermediate piano leaves piece"],"num_per_query":1}

This is the closest structural match to your description.


2) Dennis Alexander – “Autumn” / “Falling Leaves”-type teaching pieces

image_group{"aspect_ratio":"1:1","query":["Dennis Alexander autumn piano sheet music Alfred","Falling Leaves Dennis Alexander piano","Alfred piano repertoire autumn piece"],"num_per_query":1}


3) Catherine Rollin / Melody Bober – “Autumn”-style pedagogical pieces

image_group{"aspect_ratio":"1:1","query":["Catherine Rollin autumn piano solo sheet music","Melody Bober falling leaves piano sheet","Alfred piano solo autumn leaves beginner intermediate"],"num_per_query":1}


What it is almost certainly NOT

Let’s eliminate the noise that keeps hijacking your search:


Why your memory keeps failing to match search results

You’re running into a category naming problem, not a memory problem.

In 90s piano pedagogy:

So you’re searching by the least unique attribute


Structural fingerprint (this is the key)

From what you described, the piece has:

That combination is textbook Alfred-era intermediate repertoire.


Narrowing it down further (without guessing blindly)

If you want me to lock it down to the exact piece, the decisive details are:

Even one of those will collapse the search space from “dozens” to “2–3 exact matches.”


Third possibility (less obvious, but real)

There’s a non-zero chance you’re remembering:

…but your brain tagged it as “falling leaves” because of the imagery + motion pattern

That happens constantly with pedagogical music.


If I had to commit:
Martha Mier or Dennis Alexander is the correct lane, and the exact piece is likely sitting inside an Alfred book rather than as a widely indexed standalone title.

M: I can say with certainty that the word leaves was in the title. I can also say with certainty it was a independent, what's the word, folio or something. It was freestanding set of pages. So it wasn't part of a longer book or anything. It, let's see, structurally, it began in the base register and started with a held whole note. And the arpeggio built upwards by quarter notes, which were then held for a measure or two. And then the decoration I was talking about, there would be, hell, I could almost sing the first couple of lines in it because after the long held arpeggio, there were a couple quarter notes with a grace note on it, just kind of like a playful gallop at the end before proceeding to another one of the longer held arpeggios. Does that help at all? And then your answer helped me out with the vocabulary because I'm sitting here going through a bunch of the pieces that we've collected over the years, and I'm not sure if I'm using the right terminology, but it's like the pamphlet or booklet that represents a single piece. That's the format that I had it in.

G: TL;DR:
You’re no longer in the “generic autumn teaching piece” bucket. With what you just added—standalone folio, titled with “Leaves,” slow arpeggiated build from a held bass note, then small grace-note figures—this points much more narrowly to late-80s / early-90s recital folio pieces, not method-book material. The two strongest matches now are:


Why your new details change everything

You gave three high-value constraints:

  1. “Leaves” is definitely in the title
  2. It was a standalone folio (not in a book)
  3. Specific structure:
    • Held bass note → arpeggio grows upward in spaced notes
    • Notes linger (sustained, not busy accompaniment)
    • Then a small decorative figure (grace-note “gallop”)
    • Then repeat pattern

That’s a very specific compositional pattern—more like a mini tone-poem than a standard teaching exercise.


Most likely match

Wynn-Anne Rossi – Falling Leaves

image_group{"aspect_ratio":"1:1","query":["Falling Leaves Wynn-Anne Rossi piano sheet","Wynn-Anne Rossi piano solo falling leaves cover","Alfred solo sheet falling leaves Rossi"],"num_per_query":1}

Why this fits unusually well:

This is the first candidate that actually matches your mechanics, not just your theme.


Secondary possibility (edge case)

Alan Hovhaness – Falling Leaves (Op. 44 No. 4)

image_group{"aspect_ratio":"1:1","query":["Alan Hovhaness Falling Leaves piano sheet music","Hovhaness Op 44 No 4 piano falling leaves score","Hovhaness piano leaves piece sheet"],"num_per_query":1}

Why it’s less likely but still on the board:


What your memory strongly rules out now


Key insight (this is the pivot)

You’re remembering a piece built on a cycle pattern:

Anchor (held bass) → expand (arpeggio) → decorate (grace figure) → reset

That’s not common in generic student pieces—it’s intentional imagery writing, which is why the field just got much smaller.


If this still isn’t it

There are only a few remaining branches, and we can collapse them quickly with one more detail:

That single distinction separates:


Third possibility (low probability, but real)

You may be remembering a regional or teacher-distributed folio:

But your level of structural recall suggests it was a published Alfred/FJH-style piece.


If I had to commit again with updated info:
Wynn-Anne Rossi – Falling Leaves is the best match so far, by structure—not just title.

M: This was professionally printed. The ones you showed are still too active in the beginning. Oh, man. I don't think there were pedal markings, but I think for effect I did use the pedal. It was, the notes were tied together, like I said. Everything was held until the arpeggio was let go. What you were showing started with triplets. For the piece I'm thinking of, the triplets were in the middle. As a second question, if I wanted to try and find this myself, what would be a good place to check? We're gonna keep looking here, but if I get exasperated with my own memory or not being able to communicate things, I'd like to be able to walk away and do a little research so that I can ask better questions.

G: TL;DR:
You’re looking for a standalone folio piano solo (likely late-80s/90s) titled something like “Falling Leaves”, with a slow, sustained opening (tied notes, whole-note bass) and no triplets until later. That rules out most modern teaching pieces.
If you want to hunt it yourself efficiently, use sheet-music retailer archives + library catalogs, not Google.


Where to search (actually effective, not generic)

1) Sheet Music Plus (best first pass)


2) JW Pepper (huge archive of educational folios)


3) WorldCat (this is the “real answer” tool)

Search:

falling leaves piano solo

Then:

Why this works:


4) eBay (surprisingly powerful for this exact problem)

Search:

"falling leaves" piano sheet solo

Then:

Why:


5) YouTube (but not for listening—use it as a visual index)

Search:

falling leaves piano solo sheet

Then:


How to search (this matters more than where)

You’ve been using the wrong discriminator (title). Use structure instead:

Try search strings like:

Add:


Key publishers to look for (your era)

If you see these names, slow down and inspect:

These dominated exactly the kind of piece you’re describing.


What your latest clarification tells me (important refinement)

You just ruled out a lot:

That structure is less “teaching pattern” and more “miniature tone painting”, which suggests:

You’re probably looking for a recital-style educational solo, not a curriculum piece.


One more narrowing observation

This detail is unusually specific:

“Arpeggio notes held for a measure or two”

That implies:

That’s rarer, and it leans toward:


Do this in order:

  1. eBay image scroll (fast recognition pass)
  2. Sheet Music Plus deep scroll
  3. WorldCat keyword + publisher filtering
  4. JW Pepper cleanup pass

This avoids burnout.


Where we are now (honest assessment)

You’ve narrowed it down to a very small class of pieces, but:

So this is now a visual recognition problem, not a text search problem.


If you want to continue here, the fastest next step isn’t more guessing—it’s:

That would cut the remaining space in half immediately.

M: Yeah, I've found 10 or 15 versions so far, none of which were what I was looking for. I'll keep looking when I can get onto a desktop. As a separate question, I'm looking to find a decent electric keyboard or piano. Something with a full range, inexpensive but functional, and importantly, one that can deal with analog inputs and independent multiple inputs. I tried to get my mom to buy one, and she ended up with one of those Casios, which can only handle like a single note in a digital on or off, unless you're really, really careful. Some form of digital interface would be nice. I'm not sure what the current standard is. I know that it used to be MIDI, and that was a pain in the ass, but for all I know, everything has turned to USB-C or something like that.

G: TL;DR:
What you bought (cheap Casio-style keyboard) is exactly what you don’t want.
You’re looking for:

That puts you in the $400–$700 “real instrument” tier. Below that = toy behavior.


The core issue you ran into (and why it felt wrong)

What you described:

“single note on/off unless you're careful”

That’s a dead giveaway of:

Real digital pianos:

Cheap boards fake this and feel “binary.”


What the modern standard actually is

Short version:

So today you get:

No pain-in-the-ass anymore. It’s basically “plug it in and it works.”


What you actually want (filtered options)

Solid, cheap-but-real (don’t go below this tier)

products{"selections":[["turn0product1","Yamaha P-45 (or P-143/P-145)"],["turn0product11","Casio CDP-S110"],["turn0product37","Roland FP-10"],["turn0product40","Alesis Concert 88"]]}

Why these:

Reality check:

Reddit consensus: under ~$400 = compromises, ~$500–700 = real feel citeturn0search0


Slight upgrade (noticeable improvement)

products{"selections":[["turn0product9","Yamaha P-225"],["turn0product7","Roland FP-30X"],["turn0product16","Casio CDP-S360"]]}

These give you:


About your “analog inputs / multiple inputs” requirement

This is the one place expectations need adjusting:

Most digital pianos:

If you want:

“multiple inputs / routing / layering”

You actually want:


Practical setups (based on your intent)

If you want: “just play piano again”

→ Get something like:

Simple, reliable, no nonsense.


If you want: “hook into computer / experiment / layer sounds”

→ Same keyboard +:

Now you get:


If you want: “multiple analog inputs like a hub”

→ You’re actually describing:


What to avoid (based on your experience)

Anything like:

They:


Bottom line


If I had to give you a clean, no-thinking recommendation:

Get a Yamaha P-145 / P-225 or Roland FP-10.
Everything else is either compromise or overkill for what you described.

M: I'm not actually looking for weighted keys. The kinetic response or feel of it is less of my issue than the ability to... well, I'm perfectly willing to go with the harpsichord approach is what I mean. It just has to be able to hit all of them. I would prefer to be able to have... oh, what is the term for that? Action or something like that. Basically volume based on how hard you press it. I'm not reading through the rest of it because I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing or if it even will affect the price.

G: TL;DR:
Yes—you’re talking about velocity sensitivity (volume based on how hard you press).
You do NOT need weighted keys to get that.
What you want is:

88 keys + velocity-sensitive (a.k.a. “touch-sensitive”) + decent polyphony + USB MIDI

That’s a different category than what I recommended before.


The term you were reaching for

You said:

“volume based on how hard you press”

That is:

If a keyboard doesn’t have this, it feels like:


Key clarification (this matters more than anything else)

There are three separate things people confuse:

Feature What it does Do you need it?
Weighted keys Feels like a real piano ❌ No
Velocity sensitivity Controls volume/dynamics ✅ YES
Polyphony How many notes can ring at once ✅ YES

Your problem keyboard likely failed at velocity and/or polyphony, not weighting.


What you should actually buy (your real category)

Best fit for what you described

products{"selections":[["turn0product44","M-Audio Keystation 88 MK3"],["turn0product20","Novation Launchkey 88 MK3"],["turn0product21","Nektar Impact GXP88"],["turn0product9","Williams Legato IV"],["turn0product62","Alesis Concert 88"]]}


What these give you (and why they fit you better)

1) MIDI Controllers (top 3)

These are probably exactly what you want, functionally:

👉 Translation:


2) Cheap standalone keyboards (last 2)

These:


Critical distinction (this will save you money)

MIDI controller vs digital piano

MIDI controller:

Digital piano:


Why your previous keyboard felt broken

Cheap keyboards often:

That creates:

“I can only play one note properly unless I’m careful”


Modern connectivity (your earlier question)

You’re right to suspect changes:

Many also support:


Blunt recommendation (based on what you actually said)

If I ignore everything “piano purist” and just match your needs:

Get a MIDI controller, not a digital piano.

Specifically:


One sentence summary

You don’t need weight—you need velocity + polyphony + MIDI, and that puts you squarely in 88-key MIDI controller territory, not traditional digital pianos.

M: Yeah, velocity was what I was talking about. That's why my brain threw the word action out there. Similar category, but different terms. Yeah, it needs to be able to handle the velocity, be able to be accessed by the computer, and I think what you're talking about with the polyphony. Polyphony? I don't know what the transcriber is going to do with that. But if you remember what I was telling you about how the Leaves piece worked, it has to be able to hit like eight notes at once and not simultaneously when it's played. The one my mom got could, you know, emulate the MIDI, but it couldn't actually detect it when it was played on the keys. I am not directly looking for a harpsichord. I was just using that as a descriptor for the idea that the important thing was the ability to play multiple tones in an asynchronous way, rather than being limited to only being able to play one when the other one was let go of. So if necessary, I was willing to go with the absolute one or zero of a harpsichord rather than the ability to detect velocity like a piano.

G: TL;DR:
You’re describing three requirements, and they’re all fixable:

  1. Velocity sensitivity (touch response) → so dynamics work
  2. True polyphony (≥32 voices, ideally 64+) → so notes don’t cut off
  3. USB MIDI + decent key scanning → so it actually detects overlapping notes correctly

What your mom bought failed at #2 and #3, not just velocity.


What went wrong (translated cleanly)

You said:

“could emulate MIDI but couldn’t detect it when played”

That’s the key failure.

Cheap keyboards often:

That creates exactly what you described:

you play multiple notes in sequence → earlier ones vanish → feels like “only one note at a time”

This is not normal behavior for a proper keyboard.


The minimum specs you actually need

Ignore marketing fluff. Look for these:

Absolute minimum:

Ideal:


What category you actually belong to

You are not:

You are:

“MIDI-first player who wants real input fidelity”

That means:


Best choices (filtered to YOUR criteria)

Best cheap + correct (no nonsense)

entity["product","M-Audio Keystation 88 MK3"]

👉 This avoids your exact failure case because:


Slight upgrade (better control, still light)

entity["product","Novation Launchkey 88 MK3"]


If you want standalone sound (no computer required)

entity["product","Alesis Concert 88"]

👉 This behaves like a normal instrument without needing software


Important distinction (this is the core decision)


Option B — Digital piano


Why I’m leaning MIDI controller for you

Because your specific frustration was:

“notes not overlapping correctly”

A MIDI controller:

That sidesteps the exact failure you hit.


One subtle but important thing

You described:

notes held while others are added later (arpeggiated + sustained)

That requires:

Cheap keyboards:

Better ones:


Bottom line (no fluff)

If you want the safest, frustration-proof path:

Get the M-Audio Keystation 88 MK3 + plug it into your computer.

That guarantees:

—and avoids repeating the exact problem you ran into.

M: Oh, I forgot to mention, I have a speaker. It's the guitar one, but it's got the basic input. What's that jack called? The kind that you use for amplifiers and guitars. Anyway, I'm looking for something that can make music by itself. The MIDI interface is just because, well, it's electronic and I've got a computer, so why not have the capacity to record integrated into the specifications if it doesn't affect the price line too heavily.

G: TL;DR:
Now that you clarified everything, your target is very clean:

Standalone keyboard (makes its own sound) + velocity + real polyphony + 1/4" output to your amp + USB MIDI

You do NOT want a MIDI controller.
You want a basic digital piano / stage keyboard (non-weighted or light).


First—your speaker question (quick answer)

“the guitar amp jack thing”

That is:

Most keyboards will give you:

So yes—you can plug straight into your guitar amp.


What you actually need (final spec list)

Ignore everything else—this is your checklist:


Good options that actually fit your use case

Best “cheap but won’t break your sanity”

products{"selections":[["turn0product23","Alesis Concert 88"],["turn0product0","Williams Legato IV"],["turn0product32","Korg Liano"],["turn0product16","Casio CDP-S360"]]}


What these actually mean for YOU

entity["turn0product23","Alesis Concert 88"] — safest cheap pick

👉 This fixes your exact complaint.


entity["turn0product0","Williams Legato IV"] — similar tier


entity["turn0product32","Korg Liano"] — best feel without weight

👉 If you want “not piano-like but still expressive,” this is strong.


entity["turn0product16","Casio CDP-S360"] — feature-heavy

👉 Overkill, but flexible.


What to actively avoid (based on your exact failure)

Anything like:

Even if they say:

They often:

That’s exactly the behavior you described.


One subtle but important thing (your Leaves piece)

Your piece requires:

hold low note → build arpeggio → add notes later → nothing drops

That specifically requires:

That’s why:


Final recommendation (no hedging)

If you want the cleanest, least frustrating outcome:

Buy the Alesis Concert 88.

If you want slightly nicer feel:

Korg Liano.

Everything else is just tradeoffs.


One-line summary

You don’t need realism—you need reliable note detection + velocity + real polyphony + a 1/4" output, and that puts you squarely in the entry-level digital piano tier, not toy keyboards or pure MIDI controllers.

M: I'm not refusing the idea of a weighted key, as long as it doesn't detract from the rest of the structure. Are there any within the same price range that you excluded because you thought I only wanted the light touch keys?

G: TL;DR:
Yes—there are weighted-key options in your price range that I didn’t push earlier because they’re usually recommended for “piano feel,” not your use case.
But some of them do meet your real requirement (velocity + polyphony + reliability) without breaking anything.

The key is:

Stick to known brands. Cheap weighted boards often fail the exact way your current one does.


The short answer (clean picks)

If you want weighted keys without sacrificing functionality, these are the ones that actually make sense:

Best weighted options in your price band

products{"selections":[["turn0product2","Yamaha P-45"],["turn0product28","Roland FP-10"],["turn0product0","Casio CDP-S110"],["turn0product1","Alesis Recital Pro"]]}


What changes when you go weighted (honest, not marketing)

Pros:

Cons:

👉 Important:
Weighted keys themselves do NOT fix your problem.
What fixes your problem is:

These models happen to improve those at the same time.


How these compare (in your terms)

1) entity["product","Yamaha P-45"] — safest “it just works”

👉 This will not drop notes in your Leaves-style playing unless you really push it


2) entity["product","Roland FP-10"] — best key detection

👉 If your main fear is “it won’t register what I’m doing,” this is the strongest pick


3) entity["product","Casio CDP-S110"] — middle ground

👉 Nice compromise between “piano feel” and “not fighting the keys”


4) entity["product","Alesis Recital Pro"] — cheapest weighted that still works

👉 This is the lowest I’d go for weighted without risking your earlier problem again


What I intentionally avoided (and why)

You probably noticed some cheaper “weighted” options online:

I excluded them on purpose because:

They often look like upgrades (weighted keys)
but still fail at polyphony + note detection

Which puts you right back where you started.


Important correction to your mental model

You said:

“as long as weighted doesn’t detract from the rest”

That’s exactly right—but here’s the twist:

In this price range, weighted models are often MORE reliable overall, not less.

Because:


Where this leaves you (decision logic)

If your priority is:

“I never want notes to disappear again”

Roland FP-10

“I want safe, simple, known-good”

Yamaha P-45

“Cheapest weighted that still behaves properly”

Alesis Recital Pro

“Slightly lighter feel but still proper”

Casio CDP-S110


Bottom line

You weren’t wrong to avoid weighted earlier—but:

At your price range, the good weighted keyboards are actually safer than cheap non-weighted ones.

They:


If I had to give one clean recommendation based on everything you’ve said:

Roland FP-10 = lowest risk of frustration.

M: Okay, now combine the two types, the light touch and the weighted keys, and give me a recommendation with both of them combined. That was the whole point. I wanted to make sure that I wasn't excluding something that was worthwhile just because you accidentally thought I cared about the nature of the key action. I just want something that works. It doesn't matter whether it's light touch or weighted.

G: TL;DR (clean, no bias):
If you don’t care about key weight, the best overall “it just works” picks (velocity + real polyphony + standalone + amp output + USB MIDI) are:

  • Best overall (lowest risk): entity["turn0product1","Roland FP-10"]
  • Best cheaper option: entity["turn0product3","Alesis Concert 88"]
  • Best light-touch option: entity["turn0product4","Korg Liano"]
  • Best safe middle ground: entity["turn0product0","Yamaha P-45"]

That’s the full spectrum—light + weighted—filtered for your actual requirement: no note dropouts + proper velocity.


The combined answer you actually wanted

You weren’t asking “weighted vs light.”
You were asking:

“Which keyboards—regardless of feel—actually work correctly?”

So here’s the unified breakdown.


Tier 1 — “This will not fail you” (pick one and stop thinking)

entity["turn0product1","Roland FP-10"]

  • Weighted (but not heavy-feeling compared to real piano)
  • Excellent velocity detection + key scanning
  • Very reliable note handling (no choking)
  • USB MIDI + headphone/1/4" output

👉 Most bulletproof option overall


entity["turn0product0","Yamaha P-45"]

  • Weighted
  • 64-note polyphony (minimum but solid) citeturn0product2
  • Very stable behavior
  • Simple, no weird quirks

👉 Slightly less advanced than Roland, but extremely dependable


Tier 2 — “Cheaper but still correct”

entity["turn0product3","Alesis Concert 88"]

  • Semi-weighted (lighter feel)
  • ~128-note polyphony (safe for your use case) citeturn0product3
  • Velocity works properly
  • Built-in speakers + 1/4" out

👉 Best budget choice that still avoids your previous problem


entity["turn0product4","Korg Liano"]

  • Light touch (closest to what you originally described)
  • Reliable detection
  • Good sound + simple interface

👉 Best if you want effortless playing, not resistance


What actually matters (your real checklist)

Forget marketing categories. These are the only things that matter:

1. Velocity sensitivity

→ All of the above have it

2. Polyphony

  • Alesis: ~128 (safe)
  • Yamaha: 64 (acceptable)
  • Roland: optimized engine (very safe)

This is what prevents:

“notes disappearing when I play more”


3. Key scanning quality (the hidden one)

This is what your old keyboard failed at.

  • Roland = best
  • Yamaha = very good
  • Korg/Alesis = good enough

Cheap brands fail here, not in specs.


4. Output to your amp

All of these:

  • have 1/4" headphone/line out
  • will plug into your guitar amp directly

5. USB MIDI (modern standard)

All of these:

  • plug into computer with USB
  • no old-school MIDI hassle citeturn0search0

The real conclusion (what you were trying to confirm)

You were worried about accidentally excluding something.

You didn’t.

The same small group of keyboards keeps coming up
because they’re the only ones in this price range that don’t break under real playing


Blunt final recommendation

If you want zero ambiguity:

  • Get the Roland FP-10 → safest
  • If cheaper matters → Alesis Concert 88
  • If you want lighter touch → Korg Liano

Everything else is just a variation of those tradeoffs.


One-line summary

You weren’t choosing between weighted vs light—you were choosing between functional vs broken, and the list above is the set that reliably lands on the functional side.