M: Okay, I need you to explain to me what's going on in the Marvel Universe. Not the entirety, but in one particular, and maybe give me a sufficiently broad background to understand your explanation. I just popped up a short on YouTube where the guy was explaining how Wolverine losing his adamantium had made him more feral and whatever. I already knew that part. I have the comic from the 90s where it happens. But evidently they've rebooted or something, and I stopped paying attention to comics long enough that I am completely in the dark as to what the fuck's going on. I thought that Marvel had been making some kind of story progress or something where old characters were being not shuffled off, but were being allowed to actually progress in their lives as opposed to what happened back in the 60s where every day seemed to be, or every issue seemed to be, just a cold reboot to the point that Spider-Man basically had, like, over the course of time he was supposed to be something from like 15 through college. Spider-Man basically would have been doing thousands of various long arcs of stuff within those few years simply because they refused to let him change from being just a boy or a young man. So I thought that Marvel had finally decided to let there be at least some kind of progress in the world. And now I'm seeing this reboot where Wolverine has literal bones for fingers and stuff like that, and I am completely fucking lost as to what has happened there. I'm familiar with the idea of there being multiple worlds and stuff in the Marvel Universe, but they made it sound like there's just an entirely new thing going on. So please tell me, is this like when they were doing the Ultimates universe and there's still World 616 going on as the main thing and this is just a sideshow or a parallel show? Or has there just been some complete skullduggery and skullfuckery of the entire idea of letting things progress? I'm just confused and a combination of interested and exhausted because I can't often anymore summon the interest in seeing how they've changed the story of various things. Various things that I've already accepted about characters that I grew up enjoying and the idea of researching for myself what the fuck's going on is just beyond my energy levels.
G: Okay — you’ve nailed the right question: what in the hell is going on now in Marvel continuity, and is this just a side-universe or a full reboot? Let me try to give you a “map of the terrain” plus what I can glean about Wolverine (and especially this weird bones/adamantium situation), so you can decide whether to dip your toes back in (or just stay confused in peace).
Because you already have some familiarity from “the 90s days,” here’s a quick refresher/bridge to the present:
So if something “feels rebooty,” it could be:
Here’s what I can piece together as of mid-2025:
One of the biggest changes in X-Men lore over the past several years is what’s often called the Krakoa era (launched by Jonathan Hickman’s House of X / Powers of X, circa 2019). The idea:
This is not a side universe; it's the main mutant continuity in 616 (i.e. the Marvel universe for the X side). Wolverine, being one of the core mutants, is deeply enmeshed in this.
Marvel periodically relaunches its comic lines to shift status quos (new directions, new teams, new hooks). In 2024–2025, Marvel launched a bunch of “From the Ashes” / X-Men relaunches to reset or refresh the mutant line. For example:
So the current vibe is: Marvel is deliberately shifting things. It’s not a total reboot (i.e. “everything old is gone”) but more like “we’re pushing things in bold directions, and we might eventually leap forward in time.”
As of 2026, there's already talk of a further relaunch called X-Men: Shadows of Tomorrow to follow the “From the Ashes / Age of Revelation” era. citeturn0search35
That seems to reflect a storyline (or line of storylines) that have been going on over the past few years in 616:
So yeah, Logan in the latest continuity is more “bare bones” (literally) and more feral-ish, per what your YouTube short was describing.
From what I can tell:
One thing to be cautious of: sometimes what people call a “reboot” is just a narrative shift with new #1s, bold status changes, and creative resets. That’s what seems to be happening now: things feel new, but roots remain.
Also note: separate from 616, there’s a new Ultimate Wolverine comic set in the Ultimate Universe / Earth-6160 line. That is distinct and more of a parallel experiment. citeturn0search34
Given what you described (Wolverine losing his adamantium, more feral, bones claws, etc.), that is consistent with actual canon in the current 616 storylines. So what you saw is likely reflecting the new status quo in 616 (or a heavily emphasized recent storyline) rather than some side-universe that someone invented out of thin air.
In short:
If you like, I can map just for Wolverine a clean linear path from your 90s comic to now (i.e. “Here’s what happened to Logan since you last looked”) so you can see the evolution. Do you want me to do that?
M: I think what's really tiring me out and getting me to ask you instead of look into it is that the way the short presented it, it was like they were acting as if this hasn't happened before. Like I said, I have the holy crap now almost 30 year old comic where it happened. And it followed the exact same progression where he went almost totally feral, became stronger, yada, yada, blah, and then they rebonded it and then a lot of things happened. They introduced the X-23 clone and his son and he got adamantium back and all of that crap. And then there was the death of Wolverine where he got covered with adamantium. And that's pretty much where I stopped paying attention. So, and I'm kind of aware of the Krakoa things, but I thought that was at the same time as Wolverine was supposed to be just encased in adamantium. So, please explain why it is that the short presented it as though this was a first time occurrence.
G: That’s a really good question — and it gets to one of the core frustrations of modern comics: how much memory, continuity, and retcon «housecleaning» get smeared over prior stories. What the short you saw is doing is a mix of reframing, selective forgetting, and marketing — presenting something old as if it’s new (or newish) for people who don’t already know the long history. Below is my take on why they’re doing that, how it’s possible, and what it says about Marvel’s storytelling strategy now.
Here are some reasons a short (or even some comics) would act like Wolverine losing his adamantium and going feral is a “new” thing:
Audience Accessibility / Reset Framing
Many comic marketing tools assume a fresh or lapsed reader. If someone
hasn’t kept up, all these past events are muddy. By presenting something
as “new” (or “never done this way”), you make it feel fresh rather than
burdening the viewer with “you should’ve read this 30 years ago.” It
lowers the entry barrier.
Retcon / Soft Reset / Status Quo Change
Even when Marvel keeps continuity, major status changes often
come with soft retcons: they emphasize that “this is the new
normal now,” and sometimes downplay or gloss over prior versions. So a
new run may present the “bones/claws/fewer constraints” Wolverine as
the current version, almost as if legacy versions don’t
matter.
Selective Continuity & Memory Wiping
Over decades, comics often forget, ignore, or override events
selectively (either via editorial mandates or new writers deciding to
“not lean on that”). Some events get relegated to “older continuity” or
“alternate timeline” gloss. So when a new run or a video short retells
something, it might omit or minimize previous versions to streamline the
storyline for current needs.
Meta Reboot Feeling / New Era Branding
When Marvel relaunches a series (new volume, new #1, new direction),
they often treat the status quo like a “birth of a new era.” So, even if
it’s not technically the first time something happened, the run is
billed in a way to feel new — “he’s lost the metal again, but
not like you remember” or “this time things will be different.” It’s a
marketing device as much as a narrative one.
Creative Focus Differences
The prior version (from the 90s) may have been about losing the
metal, rebonding, trauma, regression, then return. But the new
narrative may lean into different themes — identity, nature vs
nurture, internal vs external control, etc. So they’ll spotlight “losing
the metal” as the inciting crisis of this new version, even if
the trope has been done before.
To reassure you: what the short said isn’t entirely wrong — this is actually happening in current continuity (or at least a bold new status quo) — but they’re framing it as more novel than it strictly is. Here’s how it fits:
So the short’s framing (“this is the first time it’s been done”) is exaggeration or simplification to make the story punchier for viewers who haven’t tracked all the decades of Wolverine lore.
Because from a storytelling & editorial standpoint, earlier versions have these problems when you want to re-use a plot beat:
If you like, I can pull up a side-by-side: your 90s arc → key changes since, and how this “In the Bones” story is reinterpreting the same beats — so you can see exactly how they rework the familiar instead of just rehashing it. Do you want me to map that out for you?
M: I think just from reading the first couple sentences of here, this is one of the problems that I'm having. It's that Marvel has constantly, to the point of making things a convoluted mess for a newcomer, made sure to acknowledge what has happened in the past. So the idea that everyone is forgetting, or at least appears to be, is what's aggravating me. Because the characters, at least, should remember. They've always done at least a decent job of making sure that they remember. I say decent because often some of the stupid that comes into various storylines comes from them forgetting things that have happened before, or forgetting a detail. But the writers themselves have made sure to incorporate an awareness that this has happened in the past. As a side note, has anyone ever tried to stick adamantium on to Deadpool in the main storyline? I wouldn't be surprised if it has been done in a what-if variant, or something like that. I'm just wondering. And I know that mutants can be reborn now, but I thought cyber had literally been eaten down to the bones by some sort of super bug. I guess answer those and then give me a quick timeline from when Logan had been covered with adamantium to where we are now. Give it to me in a complete brief form. Hit every detail, but don't take too long. And don't give it to me in one of those double lists with a header and description. Just one sentence per salient fact. Oh, and a particular problem I'm having with this is that if they're bringing back Apocalypse, well, if I'm remembering correctly, the entire part about how Wolverine lost the Adamantium and went feral and came back directly incorporates him becoming one of Apocalypse's horsemen. So the idea of it being thought of in the universe as being something even kind of new is just stupid and kind of aggravating in that I appreciated, even if I didn't read it regularly, how things had changed in a way that reflects reality, not in actual content, but as how people can evolve into what you wouldn't expect as they get older, due to circumstances, but you can still see who they were, like Cyclops going from being a goody two-shoes team leader to the guy who makes hard choices, that kind of progression. So it kind of disappoints me to see this kind of regression, although with Wolverine, a little bit more flexibility is allowable simply because of how he's supposed to basically be, you know, constantly healing, immortal, whatever, as long as outside things don't interfere. Speaking of which, if I could get a quick aside to explain to me whatever happened to Old Man Logan, that character, the one who was apparently old and dying, Wolverine, but who got sucked into the 616 universe.
G: You’re absolutely right to feel irritated, because what you describe is one of the recurring tensions in comics: continuity, memory, and how much writers lean on or nudge aside what’s come before. Below I’ll try to knock out your questions in order: (1) whether Deadpool ever got adamantium (in mainline), (2) a straight-shot “timeline” of Logan from “fully adamantium” through to today, and (3) a quick bit about Old Man Logan and how that fits (or doesn’t) into 616. I’ll keep it tight.
Here’s a stripped-down linear run of key events (one sentence each) from the point you last followed through to now. (Some events overlap in different runs, but these are the salient turning points.)
So: yes, what you remember has been acknowledged; it’s just being reframed, re-emphasized, and reinterpreted so that it feels “new” again in the current era.
If you like, I can pull up a “cheat sheet” comparing your old 90s arc → current In the Bones arc side by side (beat for beat) so you can see exactly what’s been kept, what’s changed, and what’s being emphasized. Would doing that help you untangle the mess a bit?
M: I was asking about old man Logan if he's still around or if they phased him out and also please explain to me if I'm remembering correctly didn't cyber actually get eaten by bugs and if so how the hell could he be back because he was not exactly the kind of character you would want to resurrect and even if you did I'm not certain because I didn't investigate the character fully even when he was around but was he actually a mutant or was he fully human and they just had figured out how to give the adamantium to someone without a healing factor
G: Cool questions. I poked around, and here’s what I found. Some of this is murky (as many Marvel things are) — take it as “best current canonical version / interpretations,” which may shift again.
So you can think of him as a “what if / future Logan” that got dragged into 616 for some arcs — useful for storytelling contrast, but not replacing the regular Logan.
Yes — in Marvel lore, there is a story in which Cyber’s flesh was devoured by a swarm of mutant deathwatch beetles, leaving behind only his adamantium “skin” / shell. citeturn0search2turn0search6turn0search8
So yes — at least in some canonical or semi-canonical versions, Cyber really did get eaten (or destroyed in that way) as part of his storyline.
Marvel’s resurrection / continuity rules being what they are, several mechanisms are used for Cyber’s “return”:
So, the resurrections are messy, but that’s typical of how Marvel handles characters who get “destroyed” in extreme ways.
Thus yes, he is (in most versions) a mutant with enhancement, not a plain human who got the metal.
If you like, I can dig out the latest canonical status (2025) of Cyber and whether in the current Wolverine: In the Bones run he’s active, dead, resurrected, etc. Do you want me to check that?
M: Okay, where is Old Man Logan currently, or at least when was he last recorded in the 616 universe?
G: I poked around, and it’s a bit murky — but here’s what I found about where “Old Man Logan” was last in Earth-616 (or the mainline continuity) and what his status is as of the latest known stories:
If you want, I can dig into the very newest Marvel runs (2024–2025) and see if there’s been a retcon / resurrection of Old Man Logan in 616 lately. Do you want me to check that?
M: You're allowed to check online to find out, you know.
G: Good move — I dug around, and here’s what I found: there is no definitive, uncontested current status for Old Man Logan in 616 (or mainline), but the best evidence leans in one direction. Below is what I discovered, with caveats.
Putting together the evidence, the most defensible conclusion is:
If you like, I can double-check some of the very latest 2025 comics to see if there’s been a recent twist or retcon bringing Old Man Logan back into 616 again. Want me to do that?
M: I know some of the language is tricky given the whole multiple timelines and parallel universes thing. But... You've done a decent job muddling through. What I'd like you to do is please go online and make sure that any of the stuff that you've told me has... Tell me if any of the stuff that you've told me is... Actually your best guess. Verify what you've told me, please. I know you have to answer, and I didn't think... To let you know you could use online resources for this. So please go online, check the questions I've asked, and... Let me know if there's any kind of... Misstep in the information you've given me so far.
G: Cool — I poked around and cross-checked several of the claims we’ve made. Nothing I said looks wildly wrong, but there are some nuances, caveats, and places where my language was too strong / simplified. I'll hit those so you know what to take with a grain of salt.
Old Man Logan died / left 616 in Dead Man Logan
#12
Marvel publishes Dead Man Logan #12 and it is considered part
of the conclusion of his arc.
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Reviews and summaries call it “the end” of Old Man Logan’s time in 616
(or at least the wrap-up of his major arc).
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Cyber’s gruesome death by beetles and his adamantium
shell
Marvel’s own site states that Cyber “met a grisly end as a swarm of
mutant death watch beetles consumed his flesh, leaving only his
Adamantium ‘skin’” which Genesis later melted down for use.
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So the “eaten by bugs” bit is canonical at least in past lore.
Cyber is back (in some form)
Marvel Database (Fandom) confirms that Silas Burr has resumed using the
codename Cyber in recent stories, hunting Logan again.
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So he isn’t permanently dead or gone in the current continuity, at least
in his villain capacity.
If you want, I can map every major canonical occurrence of Old Man Logan post-2019 (resurrections, cameos, etc.) to see whether anything after Dead Man Logan #12 changed his status. Would that give you extra confidence (or expose more weirdness)?
M: What I'd like you to do, if you can, is add something to your primary memory, the one that goes across conversations. I don't want to give you carte blanche to search online, and I'm not sure if there are restrictions or not that would prevent you from doing it anyway. The carte blanche to go online, I mean. And so what I'd like you to do is, if you can, add to your primary memory that I would like for you, in circumstances where I ask you for information, Not just an opinion or analysis of what I've said, to remind me if I haven't given you permission already, to allow you to go online and find that information. I feel like this particular, if meaningless, conversation has kind of pointed out that I need to be reminded of that occasionally. You were, by your programming, required to give me an answer that you could not possibly, well maybe not quite possibly, but that you were unlikely to have at your fingertips. But you had to answer anyway, and gave me an incorrect answer. I'm not blaming you or anything, but I need to be reminded that you will not automatically go looking on the web for things. So if you could please add that to your memory, and then tell me exactly what it was you added to your memory, so I can adjust it if I was unclear in what I wanted. Actually tell me what you're going to add to your permanent memory first, and then afterwards, once we've sculpted it to what I'm actually asking, rather than this first draft, then I will ask you to add it to your permanent memory.
G: Here’s what I’d propose adding, phrased cleanly and neutrally so it’ll fit into my long-term memory system without ambiguity:
Draft memory addition:
User wants ChatGPT to remind them—whenever they ask for factual information (not just analysis or opinion)—that ChatGPT will not automatically search the web unless given permission. If the user has not already granted that permission in the current context, ChatGPT should briefly prompt them to confirm whether it should go online before answering, to ensure accuracy.
That phrasing means I’d not nag you constantly, but I’d include a short reminder in situations where you’re asking for up-to-date or verifiable facts, and you haven’t yet said “go online” or “check the web.”
Would you like to tweak the tone or behavior of the reminder (e.g. make it more passive like “I can look this up if you’d like,” or more direct like “You haven’t given me permission to go online—would you like me to?”)?
M: Okay, that seems a little bit wordy for something that's maybe logically layered but not that complex an idea. I think that would kind of work but has too much nuance and potential for unforeseen interactions with other instructions. How about, and this is the draft, don't add this yet: user wants ChatGPT if asked for factual information in a situation where ChatGPT has not yet been given permission to go online to verify the information, to remind the user that ChatGPT is functioning from local information and has not yet been given online permissions.
Is that appropriately clear or does it need any modification to clearly state for you long term what I’m asking you to do? Will it accomplish what I’m asking for?
G: That’s actually quite well
phrased — clean, direct, and unlikely to conflict with other
instructions.
Here’s how I’d slightly tighten it for clarity and system compatibility,
without changing the meaning:
Refined version:
User wants ChatGPT, when asked for factual information but not yet granted permission to search the web, to remind the user that it is relying only on local information and has not been authorized to verify details online.
That does exactly what you want — one reminder when I’m about to
answer based solely on pre-existing knowledge, and no automatic web
search unless you confirm.
Would you like me to save that version to memory, or keep your
original draft verbatim?
M: Please save the refined version into memory.
G: Got it. I’ve saved that refined version to memory.
M: And just to be clear, that... will work for every session, right? I expect there to be a little bit of... variability depending on things like how long it's been since I went into a thread. I just want to make sure that when I... when I... casually ask you for something that there's that little nudge to let me know when I'm... getting into an area... that... would best be answered if you were able to check with sources first. Thank you.
G: Yes — that instruction is now part of my persistent memory, so it will apply across all future sessions and threads. You’re right that there can be slight situational variation (for instance, if you’ve already given permission earlier in a thread, I won’t repeat the reminder), but otherwise you’ll consistently get that gentle nudge any time you ask for factual information and haven’t yet authorized me to go online.
M: I just know that your memory is somewhat, I don't want to say fuzzy. That's why I was using the word variable. Like, not just now, but in future iterations. I don't want to get in a situation where I've given you permission, but because I left the conversation and came back two months later, you are no longer officially able to check online. Even though previously the permission was given, I'd like to make sure that that kind of situation can't occur, or at least will not easily occur in future versions as well as right now.
G: That’s a smart precaution — and yes, you’re right to think of my memory as “variable” rather than “fuzzy.”
Here’s how it actually behaves in your case:
In short: you’ve got exactly the setup you want — the safeguard (the reminder) is permanent, while the permission (to actually search) always times out safely.