M: Help me out here, because looking up the specifics or even trying to hypothesize about them will give me an embolism. Donald is trying to say that he's going to sue ABC because they put Jimmy Kimmel back on, saying that it's some kind of campaign against him. Remember, he can't run, so there's no campaign, and calling it illegal campaign contributions to put on air someone who doesn't like him. I'd like you to go online, sharpen up these facts, because I've been talking in general without making sure I got specifically correct, and then tell me if it's an illegal campaign contribution. Try and use online resources to gather together your best estimate of how much in illegal campaign contributions there would be on various stations to the Republican Party if the lowest bar to clear in order to be illegal was a comedian making fun of Joe Biden, and going upwards from there to various things like someone who's presenting themselves as news, but either giving incomplete or downright false evidence without reporting it as a campaign contribution.

G: This is a thorny question, because it sits at the intersection of campaign‐finance law, First Amendment free speech, and FCC broadcast regulation. I’ll walk through what the law says, where the uncertainties lie, and then give my best estimate as to whether what you're describing could count (or be argued) as an “illegal campaign contribution,” and how big that could be in theory.


Here’s a breakdown of relevant legal rules and doctrines, and how they apply (or don’t) in the scenario you describe.

1. Equal Time / Candidate Appearance rules (FCC / Communications Act)

Therefore, even if a network airs a comedian mocking a candidate, the question is whether that triggers a “candidate appearance” under § 315, or falls into an exemption.

2. Campaign finance law: “contributions,” “expenditures,” and the “press exemption”

3. Where the boundaries are fuzzy (and litigation risk lies)

Because of the mix of First Amendment protection, exemptions, and broadcasting regulation, whether a particular airing counts as an “illegal campaign contribution” is heavily fact-dependent. Some of the key variables:

Because of all that, many challenges of this type end in First Amendment defenses or questions of whether the law applies at all — i.e. the “press exemption” or free speech rights will often be invoked.


Applying this to your hypothetical: Jimmy Kimmel, ABC, and “campaign contributions”

Let’s map your scenario:

Could that be treated as a campaign contribution or illegal? Let’s see where the legal barriers are:

  1. Press/media exemption — ABC is a broadcast network; its news/editorial operations are typically shielded under the press exemption doctrine. It’s hard to treat a talk/show satire segment as a political campaign’s “in-kind donation.”
  2. Lack of coordination — if ABC is operating independently (i.e., it is not taking direction from a campaign in selecting or timing the segment), it will be viewed as an independent political expression, not a contribution.
  3. Exemption under candidate appearance / equal time — The equal time rule might require some balancing opportunities, but it doesn’t necessarily convert speech into a “contribution.”
  4. First Amendment constraints — forcing broadcasters to treat regular programming as campaign contributions would raise strong free speech/press objections.

Thus, even though one might argue the moral or political case (that media giving favorable or hostile treatment is a kind of subsidy), legally it's a steep hill to convert that into a recognized “illegal campaign contribution.”

In other words: very unlikely that a court would accept that simply airing a comedian's commentary is a contribution in the regulated sense, unless there was a strong showing of coordination or deception.

Nevertheless, for your thought experiment: let’s hypothetically assume that the lowest bar is crossed (e.g. let’s pretend the law treated a comedian’s mockery on ABC as a campaign contribution). Then we can try to estimate how big that “contribution” might be. (But this is purely hypothetical — not what courts would accept in practice.)


Hypothetical “valuation” of an illegal campaign contribution

Here’s how one might attempt to value the “contribution,” if you accept (for sake of argument) that such content is treated like a paid ad:

So, in your phrasing: “how much in illegal campaign contributions there would be on various stations” — in a hypothetical world where comedic criticisms count:

But these are not legal valuations — these are approximations for if one treated the content as if it were paid political advertising.


Bottom line & risk assessment

If you like, I can pull up precedent cases (if any exist) where someone tried a similar argument, and show how courts have treated them. Do you want me to do that?

M: I appreciate the legal breakdown, but I already know it's ridiculous. What I'm asking for is... Given... how much... Fox News alone... kisses Donald's ass... on a regular basis... what is the value... of all the time... that has been spent... spewing bullshit about Biden would be worth? If... Donald ever managed to convince one particular judge... that yes, making fun of him... for 30 seconds... while telling the truth... was in fact... some kind of illegal campaign contribution.

G: Got it — you’re asking me to follow the logic of Trump’s own absurd framing, and flip it: if that framing were accepted, then Fox’s “free promotion” of Donald would dwarf anything Kimmel or ABC could ever be accused of. Let’s run it as a thought experiment in hard numbers.


Step 1. Establish the “valuation rule” under Trump’s logic


Step 2. Fox News airtime and reach


Step 3. Estimate “supportive” content share

Fox isn’t 100% Trump all the time, but:

Weighted average across the schedule: call it ~40% of total Fox airtime functioning as “contributions” under Trump’s absurd theory.

So:
8,736 total hours/year × 40% ≈ 3,494 hours/year of “contribution content.”


Step 4. Convert to ad-value


Step 5. Contextual comparison


Bottom line

If Trump ever found a judge reckless enough to accept his theory, the precedent would mean his own biggest media ally has already funneled him billions in illegal campaign contributions.
It would be the single largest campaign finance violation in U.S. history — hundreds of times bigger than any actual case — and it would immediately nuke Fox’s legal standing.


Do you want me to also run the same “what if” math for all right-leaning outlets combined (e.g., Fox + OAN + Newsmax + talk radio)? That would make the numbers so big they’d look like Pentagon budgets.