M: I have an avermedia 2 plus streaming
device with a headset mini jack, and a microphone with an clear
connection. Given that I have a limited budget, what is the minimum I
would have to do to connect the microphone into the headset jack
G: To connect your microphone to
the headset mini-jack on your AVerMedia 2 Plus device, you need to
address the fact that the headset jack typically requires a
TRRS connector (tip-ring-ring-sleeve) designed for
combined headphone and microphone use. Most standalone microphones use a
TRS (tip-ring-sleeve) or XLR
connector.
Here’s the minimum you’d need to do:
Check Your Microphone’s Connector Type:
- If your microphone uses a TRS connector (common for
standalone mics), you need a TRS to TRRS adapter.
- If it uses XLR, you'll need an XLR to TRRS
adapter or an additional step-down adapter chain.
Purchase a TRRS Adapter:
The TRRS adapter is inexpensive and allows your
microphone to connect correctly to the headset jack. Options
include:
- TRS to TRRS Adapter (like the Rode SC4 for
microphones with TRS outputs).
- XLR to TRRS Cable (if you have an XLR
microphone).
Verify Power Requirements:
- If your microphone needs phantom power (common with some condenser
mics), you’ll need a budget-friendly phantom power
supply or a microphone with its own battery power.
Cost Estimate:
- TRS to TRRS adapter: $8–$15.
- XLR to TRRS adapter: $15–$30.
- Phantom power supply (if required): $15–$25.
Steps:
- Plug your microphone into the appropriate adapter.
- Connect the adapter into the headset mini-jack on the AVerMedia
device.
- Test the setup and adjust settings in your streaming software as
needed.
This approach should keep costs minimal while ensuring
compatibility.
M: Can you name a specific phantom power
supply that I can look up and get an idea of what you’re talking
about
G: A specific and affordable
phantom power supply you can consider is the Neewer 1-Channel
48V Phantom Power Supply. It’s a widely used option for
providing phantom power to condenser microphones. Here's a quick
overview:
Brand/Model: Neewer NW-100 Phantom Power
Supply
Features:
- Provides 48V phantom power for condenser mics.
- Includes an XLR input and output.
- Comes with a power adapter.
- Compact and lightweight.
Price Range: Around $18–$25, depending on where
you shop.
You can find it on Amazon, eBay, or other online retailers.
M: I have an xlr microphone that works,
a phantom power supply that works, an xlr to trs cable that works, and a
trrs headphone/microphone splitter that works. I just tested all of them
separately. When I try to use them to hook up to the headset port of an
avermedia live gamer portable 2 plus, though, no audio registers. What
could the problem be?
G: The issue is likely due to how
the AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2 Plus handles input through its
headset port. The headset port is designed for TRRS
(Tip-Ring-Ring-Sleeve) connections that follow the CTIA
standard (commonly used in mobile devices). Even if you’re using a TRRS
splitter, some configurations can still fail due to signal grounding,
device compatibility, or impedance mismatches.
Here’s how you can troubleshoot and resolve the issue:
1. Confirm the CTIA
Standard
The headset jack on the AVerMedia likely requires a CTIA TRRS pinout
(common in most modern devices). If your TRRS splitter uses the OMTP
standard, the microphone signal and ground connections might be
swapped.
- Solution: Make sure your TRRS splitter is
CTIA-compatible. If it’s OMTP, use a
CTIA-to-OMTP adapter.
2. Check Mic Impedance
and Power
Some headset jacks expect microphones designed for smartphones or
gaming headsets, which use electret condensers that
require bias voltage (also called plug-in power, typically 1-3V). Your
XLR mic, even with phantom power, doesn’t output this kind of
signal.
- Solution: Add a TRRS-compatible microphone
preamp or adapter that matches the headset jack’s expectations.
Examples include the Saramonic SmartRig II or the
Rode SC6.
3. Verify Cable
and Adapter Connections
Ensure the signal chain flows correctly without signal loss or
mismatches. The sequence should look like this:
- XLR Mic → Phantom Power Supply →
XLR to TRS Cable → TRRS Splitter Mic
Input → AVerMedia Headset Port.
- Confirm that:
- The TRRS splitter has separate mic and headphone plugs.
- You are connecting the microphone plug into the
AVerMedia device, not the headphone plug.
4. Test with a
Known TRRS Microphone
To isolate the issue, test the AVerMedia headset port with a standard
TRRS microphone (e.g., a smartphone-compatible lav mic). If this works,
the problem lies in how your setup adapts the XLR mic signal to
TRRS.
The AVerMedia device might need specific settings to recognize the
microphone input:
- Open the device’s software (e.g., RECentral).
- Ensure the audio input is set to Headset Microphone
or equivalent.
- Check for firmware updates that might address input issues.
6. Consider an Inline
Mic Adapter
If none of the above resolves the issue, using a device like the
iRig Pre or Saramonic SmartRig can
bridge the gap. These adapters are designed to output a mic signal
compatible with TRRS headset jacks.
If you go through these steps and still face issues, let me know
where the signal is failing, and we can refine the troubleshooting
further.
M: What is a ribbon or dynamic
microphone? (I found an inline preamp online)
G: A ribbon
microphone and a dynamic microphone are two
types of microphones that use different technologies to convert sound
into an electrical signal. Here's a breakdown of each:
Ribbon Microphone
- How It Works: Uses a thin, lightweight metallic
ribbon suspended between magnets. Sound waves cause the ribbon to
vibrate, generating an electrical signal.
- Characteristics:
- Highly sensitive to sound, especially high frequencies.
- Natural, warm sound, often preferred for vocals and acoustic
instruments.
- Fragile and requires careful handling.
- Typically passive, meaning it doesn't need phantom power (but some
modern ribbon mics are active and require it).
- Use Cases: Studio recording for vocals, strings,
brass, or room ambiance.
Dynamic Microphone
- How It Works: Uses a diaphragm attached to a coil
of wire, placed inside a magnetic field. Sound waves move the diaphragm,
creating an electrical current in the coil.
- Characteristics:
- Durable and rugged; ideal for live performance or rough
handling.
- Less sensitive than ribbon or condenser microphones, making them
good for loud sound sources like drums or guitar amps.
- Does not require phantom power.
- Use Cases: Live performances, podcasting, or
recording loud sound sources like drums or amplified instruments.
Inline Preamp
An inline preamp is a small device placed between your microphone and
your audio interface or mixer to boost the microphone's signal. It’s
particularly useful for ribbon and dynamic microphones because these
mics often have low output levels.
- Why Use It?:
- Provides clean gain to the microphone signal without introducing
noise.
- Helps avoid pushing the preamps on your audio interface or mixer too
hard, improving sound quality.
Examples include the Cloudlifter CL-1,
TritonAudio FetHead, or similar devices. These are
commonly used with ribbon and dynamic microphones.
If you're using an inline preamp, ensure it’s compatible with your
microphone type (e.g., passive vs. active). For example, a passive
ribbon mic would benefit greatly from an inline preamp, while a
condenser mic wouldn't need it.
M: So would the preamp work with a 512
skylight microphone
G: Yes, an inline preamp can work
with the 512 Audio Skylight microphone, but it might
not be necessary. Here's why:
About the 512
Audio Skylight Microphone
- Type: Large-diaphragm condenser microphone.
- Power Requirement: Requires 48V phantom power to
operate.
- Output Level: Condenser microphones like the
Skylight typically have high output levels compared to ribbon or dynamic
microphones.
Inline Preamp
Compatibility
Inline preamps like the Cloudlifter CL-1 or
TritonAudio FetHead are primarily designed for
passive microphones (ribbon or dynamic) that do not
require phantom power and have low output. These devices take advantage
of phantom power to provide clean gain to the mic signal.
For the 512 Skylight:
- Since it already requires phantom power and has a strong output, an
inline preamp is not necessary.
- In fact, some inline preamps are incompatible with condenser
microphones like the Skylight, as they pass phantom power to the mic
incorrectly or are designed specifically for passive mics.
When Would You Need a
Preamp?
- Weak Audio Interface Preamps: If your audio
interface or mixer has poor preamps (i.e., noisy or unable to provide
enough clean gain), you might consider upgrading your interface or using
a dedicated mic preamp, not an inline one.
- Alternative Setup: If you're looking for more tonal
control or a specific sound characteristic, a high-quality standalone
preamp might be beneficial.
Conclusion
An inline preamp is unnecessary for the 512 Audio
Skylight. Instead, ensure your audio interface or mixer
provides 48V phantom power and has sufficient gain to amplify the
signal. If you’re experiencing low volume or noise issues, the problem
is more likely with your interface or cables.
M: Please answer the previous
troubleshooting question about the avermedia device, knowing the
microphone is a 512 skylight
G: Given that your microphone is
the 512 Audio Skylight (a condenser microphone
requiring 48V phantom power), the issue likely stems from the AVerMedia
headset port not being compatible with the output signal from your
setup. Here's a tailored analysis and troubleshooting plan:
Potential Issues
Signal Type Mismatch:
- The 512 Skylight outputs a balanced line-level
signal (via XLR) after phantom power is supplied. The AVerMedia
headset port expects an unbalanced microphone-level
signal (designed for headsets or electret microphones).
- This mismatch can cause the AVerMedia device to fail to register the
signal.
TRRS Connection Expectation:
- The headset port on the AVerMedia uses a TRRS (Tip-Ring-Ring-Sleeve)
connection and likely follows the CTIA standard. Your
XLR-to-TRS cable combined with a TRRS splitter may not be routing the
microphone signal correctly to the AVerMedia input.
Impedance or Voltage Issues:
- The headset port might expect a specific impedance or low voltage
signal, while your 512 Skylight delivers a higher output signal from the
phantom power and preamp chain.
Solution Steps
1. Use a
TRRS-Compatible Audio Interface
- The cleanest way to connect your 512 Skylight to the AVerMedia
device is to use a TRRS-compatible audio adapter
designed to handle condenser microphones.
- Examples include:
- Saramonic SmartRig II
- Rode AI-Micro
- These devices will take the balanced XLR output from your microphone
and convert it to the unbalanced TRRS microphone signal the AVerMedia
expects.
2. Test with a
Direct TRRS Microphone
- Test the AVerMedia headset port with a simple TRRS microphone (e.g.,
a smartphone lavalier mic). If this works, it confirms the issue is in
adapting the 512 Skylight signal.
3. Adjust the
Signal with an Inline Preamp
- If you already have an inline preamp, connect it between the phantom
power supply and the XLR-to-TRS adapter. This can help adjust the gain
and impedance to better match the AVerMedia input.
4. Connect
via an External Audio Interface
- Instead of directly connecting the 512 Skylight to the AVerMedia,
use an audio interface that supports XLR microphones and can output
directly to the AVerMedia’s line-in or headset
port. For example:
- Focusrite Scarlett Solo or similar.
- Configure the audio interface to output a mic-level TRRS
signal.
- Open RECentral or your streaming software.
- Ensure the audio input source is set to Headset
Microphone or the equivalent option.
- Check firmware updates for the AVerMedia device in case there are
bug fixes related to audio input.
Likely Root Cause
The AVerMedia headset port isn’t designed to handle the line-level
signal from your 512 Skylight setup. The solution lies in either:
- Using a TRRS-compatible adapter or audio interface to properly route
and match the signal.
- Testing alternative connection methods like direct line-in, if
available.
Let me know if you need help selecting specific hardware for your
setup!
M: Is there a way to hook up An irig to
dc power
G: Yes, you can hook up an
iRig to DC power, but the method depends on which iRig
model you have. Here are some options:
For
iRig Pre & iRig Pre HD (Battery-Powered Models)
- The iRig Pre uses a 9V battery,
which can be replaced with a 9V DC power adapter using
a battery eliminator.
- Solution: Use a 9V battery
eliminator (like the MyVolts Ripcord 9V USB to DC cable) to
power the iRig from a USB power source.
For
iRig Pro & iRig HD Series (USB-Powered Models)
- These models are powered via USB.
- Solution: Use a USB power adapter
or a portable power bank with the required
voltage.
For iRig
Stream & iRig Pro Duo (Mobile Devices)
- These models can run on batteries or USB power.
- Solution: Use a USB wall adapter
or a powered USB hub to keep them running without
draining batteries.
If you let me know which iRig model you have, I can suggest a more
specific solution.
G: For the iRig Pre
2, which normally runs on two AA batteries,
you can power it via DC using a battery eliminator or a
USB-to-DC converter. Here’s how:
Option 1: AA
Battery Eliminator (Recommended)
Since the iRig Pre 2 uses two AA batteries (3V
total), you can replace them with a 3V DC power
adapter designed to mimic AA batteries.
- Product Example: MyVolts 3V Ripcord USB to
AA Battery Eliminator
- How It Works: This replaces the AA batteries with a
dummy battery setup that draws power from USB.
Option 2: DIY USB to DC
Power
If you’re comfortable modifying cables, you can:
- Take a USB 5V to 3V step-down converter.
- Solder it to a dummy AA battery holder.
- Connect it to the iRig battery compartment.
Option 3: USB
Power with Boost Converter
- If you want a plug-and-play option, use a USB-to-3V
step-down cable and connect it to the iRig Pre 2 battery
terminals.
Since the iRig Pre 2 doesn't have a dedicated DC input, a
battery eliminator is the best way to keep it powered
without constantly replacing AA batteries.